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Offline Bronk

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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2006, 11:06:14 AM »
TallonII

Just wanted to clear up a few things.  The poster you refer to as COAD is Hitech
Hitech= all things Aces High . :aok

While passion is a good thing do not let it get get the best of you.
There have been more than a few posters here who did and .... well... they are no longer posters here. I'd truly would hate to see that happen to someone so new to the game.

As for the new AC , HTC has been devoting most of there time on CT development . Hopefully after its release we'll see more AC.

Be advised on posting on ac you wish to see introduced .
There are more than a few WWII aviation nuts here. :noid
After a time you will figure out who they are and they are quite knowledgeable on specific types and in general .
Then there is the guys who have been here forever. They have seen every argument from every new player who posts saying  " X AC is modeled wrong fix it".  After so many years they have grown ahhh ..... a little short with the new posters . Don't let this get to you or curb your enthusiasm for the game.

One final thought look at multiple sources when looking up  AC data .  I sometimes find a large  difference from source to source.

I now apologize if I appeared curt with you in my post.
It was not my intention.



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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2006, 11:06:30 PM »
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If the rumors are true the buffalo in the works given only 509 were produced, as opposed to the SB2C production of 7200, which do you think is the better choose?


Since I can remember, there has been nonstop requests for the Brewster. Most of these requests come from our Finns. Inasmuch as the Finland contingent of Aces High has been among the most active player groups in terms of designing maps, skins and scenarios, I think that they have earned their Buffalo several times over.

I don't think HTC has ever used production numbers as the only parameter for introducing new aircraft. There are many other factors, such as representing more nations, adding aircraft that will fun to fly and not hanger queens. If it were just a numbers game, we would not have the Ta-152 or the C.205, or the N1K2-J and F4U-1C. All of these were produced in smaller numbers than the Brewster.

This does not mean that we won't see the B-25 and SB2C, it just means that the Brewster is perfectly justified.

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Widewing
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2006, 11:18:26 PM »
Im too lazy to state the facts but here would be a nice addition to the list of AH bombers
Handley Page Halifax
take a look at the restoration project website
NA337
if u look at the page actually read what some of the Halifax pilots said about it...

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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2006, 02:12:29 AM »
Would be great to see the Halifax.  The Mk III with both 4 gun tail and top turrets would be the best version for AH, as that was the one which differed mostly from the Lanc.

Could also have a niche role as a glider tug - maybe use gliders to take towns :)

.join would make you join the guy's halifax who is towing, he releases near the target, you become a glider, land near town and let the troops out.

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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2006, 12:44:48 PM »
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Again I apologize to you COAD for not waiting for Hitech response.
LOL?

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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2006, 08:50:58 PM »
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. . . Bottom line is everyone wants these aircraft yet your customer don’t seem to matter to you, as senior member constantly make fun of request and berate people which is complete unacceptable. . . .

 . . . But my angry was directed to all those senior members who continually make offhanded remarks. . . .
You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that "senior member" actually means something significant vs your "junior member" status.  All it means is we have posted on the BBs more than you, not that we own a part of the company or anything.

Yes, you too will find yourself a "member" and then a "senior member" one day by doing nothing more important than giving your 2 cents every now and again.

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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2006, 12:06:25 AM »
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Would be great to see the Halifax.  The Mk III with both 4 gun tail and top turrets would be the best version for AH, as that was the one which differed mostly from the Lanc.

Could also have a niche role as a glider tug - maybe use gliders to take towns :)

.join would make you join the guy's halifax who is towing, he releases near the target, you become a glider, land near town and let the troops out.

Hey this is a good idea... i think you may have stumbled onto sumthin...
damn y didnt i think of this??

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2006, 07:46:41 PM »
I’ve waited till I got a copy of Jane’s before I answered the question of the LA-5N carrying rockets. I have asked what is your source for modeling aircraft and I was never answered. The fact is Jane’s doesn’t say the LA 5 carries rocket, but it does say it carries 4 bombs and not 2 like in the game. I quoted Wikipedia, which quoted Jane's as it source, however I already had 2 other sources that said the LA-5 carried rockets.  Aircraft of WWII written by Stewart Wilson & Aircraft of WWII, 300 of the world greatest Aircraft, written by Chris Chant. Then I started my internet serach which brought me Wikipedia  which is very specfic on the LA-5N carried 8 RS-82 Rockets or up to 500Kgs of bomb.
Which is the problem, as people are going to serach the internet and see thing are different then in the game. So when someone tells me they have been modeling aircraft for 23 years and discounts everything I’ve said it’s a little fustrating. For the record I’m not only a veteran, I’m a disabled veteran and have lot of time to reseach these things. I love this game. So if you need help researching these thing I’ll be more then happy to do this for you. Like everyone else who enjoys the game, its because its of authenticy of the aircraft and I don’t think we are asking to much for that to be so.
Oh by the way the Lancaster tail turret had four guns in it, source the avition history online museum and warbird alley. The F6F-5 had a gun package which constant of  2 × 20 mm cannon (225 rounds per gun) and 4 ×.50 cal machine guns (400 rpg). Source grumman, wikipedia, and Avaition history online museum. Oh and is there any change we could update the JU-87D –3 to a D-7 this would give the aircarft some more punch as it was armed with 20 mm and maybe you could add the gun package for the JU-87G which has 37mm gun pods, would be great for killing tanks. If I real look hard I could help you find some more updates. Like I said lots of time and would love to help.

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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2006, 01:30:18 PM »
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I’ve waited till I got a copy of Jane’s before I answered the question of the LA-5N carrying rockets. I have asked what is your source for modeling aircraft and I was never answered. The fact is Jane’s doesn’t say the LA 5 carries rocket, but it does say it carries 4 bombs and not 2 like in the game. I quoted Wikipedia, which quoted Jane's as it source, however I already had 2 other sources that said the LA-5 carried rockets.  Aircraft of WWII written by Stewart Wilson & Aircraft of WWII, 300 of the world greatest Aircraft, written by Chris Chant.  


Yes I know the problem.... Chants books and many other "western sourced" books are basically using very 2nd if not 3rd hand data when refferring to VVS aircraft.

I have Chants book even the camo colours used are ridiculous........... errors all over it.

In order of thoroughness and closest to original sources try the following

1) LAVOCHKIN La5  Milos Vestik - Jiri Vrany MBI ISBN 80-86524-10-8.

It dual languiage Czech and English and in my opinion the most authorotive book on the La5 to la5Fn. It carries much original material that is unique to this publication. (photos schematics etc). Czchs used La5FN's and La7's until 1954 and so had direct access to the machines long after the Russians stopped using them.

2) Lavochkins Piston Engined Fighters - Yefim Gordon -  Red Star Midland Publishing - ISBN 1 85780 151 2.

Gordon had access to alot of original VVS material. He uses it to paint a history from the Lagg3 to the La11. It has a lot of original B& W photos and a lot of written dialogue on the development history and service history.

3)Soviet Combat aircraft of the Second World war Vol 1.  - Gordon and Khazanov. Midland Publishing -  ISBN  1 85780 083 4.

There is nothing in here that is not in Gordons bokk dedicated to the lavochkins However it also paints the complete range of VVS aircraft of the time.

4)La 5/7 Fighters in action. Hans Heiri Stapfer  squadron/signal publications ISBN 0-89747-392-2. A texan publication but when you read the acknowledgements on the data page you will see the Czech pilots names listed plus again Yefim Gordon.  very good for a "pamphlet publication".

After this you need to star digging and scratching for more data where you can find it. The reports from Rechlin are the only data you will find with any suggestion re tha roll rate that can be expected.

A publication called "in the cockpit" has first hand comparisons by Czech pilots who had flown La5FN's for the Czech air force and the VVS with "Spitfires" they had flown in the RAF. Tracking these guys down in the RAF files shows that the majority of there RAF flying was on Spit Vc's and some experience on IX's.

Vestik has also written an superb book on the La7.

I have original test data taken in 1944 and 1945 on the La7 some with notes comparing the performance to the La5FN. It s in Russian of course.

Any way if you read the first two books above I know you will begin to realise just how Encyclopedias like Chants do not do the researcher justice.
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2006, 01:41:55 PM »
P.S. Don't ever trust Wikipedia. Sorry for the aside, but I have sworn to say this every time anybody quotes Wikipedia as a reference.

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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2006, 01:48:34 PM »
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Hey this is a good idea... i think you may have stumbled onto sumthin...
damn y didnt i think of this??


woohoo!! someone finally likes one of my idea's!! in your face god!! hahaha!