Here comes the draft

[BlueJ1]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
OH HELL NO!

I never thaught about how bad the draft would be until just now when it occured to me that I'd be training basic training draftees.


AAAHHHHHHGGGGG!

You better train them well. I have to fight and work with them...

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by dmf
If they draft me don't worry I can spell my name, and usually get it right. My question is if I get drafted, what am I supposed to do with my daughter?

That's a good question.

Active duty single parents have to have some sort of written plan for contingencies.

often they don't even allow single parents into the Military unless the other parent has sole custody.

My biggest question would be, in these days of equality would they draft females as well as males?

[tedrbr]

Originally posted by john9001
""Possibly some form of FEDERAL SERVICE""

some day everyone will work for the govt.

""Formation of an American Foreign Legion. Have a core of American Officers and NCO cadre, themselves taught to speak Spanish,""

in the french legion everyone learns to speak french.

O K A Y ...appparrentlyyyy I was not veryyyy clear enough for some readerrrrssss.

The Officers and NCO's cadre would come from United States Army and Marine Units... already American soldiers from active duty service .... who would have a language specialty in spanish, in addition to their duty MOS, in orderrrr to facilitate training and command over recruits to any such American Foreign Legion, who would come from Central and South America, and who incidentally would speak.......wait for it...wait for it........Spanish.

Recruits, from Central and South American countries into any such American Foreign Legion would learn English during their enlistment; which is what I meant when I wrote:

Soldiers serve six years service, learn English, and are taught a useful military skill or given the option of off-duty training courses while serving. At the end of their enlistment, automatically given U.S. citizenship and VA benefits (probably spouses and children as well). Six years of assured work and income, medical care, education, and citizenship in return for risking military service.

Sorry for the confusion and not including pictures to follow along with.


And as to the Federal Service.... I'd prefer Federal or State Service myself, but I seriously don't see the United States Government giving up any control over an issue this big, and that service could and should also be able to take the form of work with various non-profit or aid organizations.

And all of this was in response to the original idea of the draft coming back, which is a political non-starter in it's own right.

[BlueJ1]

Originally posted by Gunslinger

My biggest question would be, in these days of equality would they draft females as well as males?

Most likely. For all the men in the field you need the people in the back running supplies and what not.

[VOR]

Rangel said his legislation on the draft would also offer the alternative of a couple of years of public service with educational benefits.

For who, exactly? If everyone chooses public service, it kinda defeats the purpose of a draft with the intent of bolstering troop strength.
(Not that it will actually pass in the first place.)

It *is* kinda surprising to see the nutcases coming forward with their agendas full force so soon after the election.

"Thanks for voting for us, Pedro. You're drafted."

[tedrbr]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Yeah, who cares what us young people WANT to do.

Sit around all day playing video games and cruising through college with minimal exersion?  


Seriously, there are many countries where federal service of some sort is mandatory for most of their citizens at some point in their lifetime.  It can take many forms, and considering all the problems across the America that people want their government to miraculously solve (so long as it does not effect them personally in a negative way), and the poor turn out at the election poles among young people in general, I'd support some form of mandatory service for young people to get involved at some level.

As to anyone who protests against being compelled to do anything of the sort in service to their country, their fellow citizens, or to sacrifice some of their time to help others in need along these lines..... me and my 19-1/2 years of U.S. Army, Guard, and Reserve service and 3 tours to combat zones (all called out from part-time status) are completely and totally unmoved.

My vote will be for the youngsters to serve in some compacity early in their lives.... especially if "outs" for rich kids are kept at a minimum, unlike the draft was in the 60's and 70's.

[lukster]

Just remember come next election which party it was calling for a military draft.

[lasersailor184]

Sit around all day playing video games and cruising through college with minimal exersion?

I wish.  It's tough being in the hardest major ever in one of the toughest engineering schools in the nation.  You wouldn't know about this though.

As to anyone who protests against being compelled to do anything of the sort in service to their country, their fellow citizens, or to sacrifice some of their time to help others in need along these lines..... me and my 19-1/2 years of U.S. Army, Guard, and Reserve service and 3 tours to combat zones (all called out from part-time status) are completely and totally unmoved.

Well, hopefully you'll be called out of reserve status again.  If the government plans on drafting me, I'll take up arms and dismantle it piece by piece.  Running to Canada is so boring.

[Urchin]

Wait, and this whole time I thought you were an econ major?

Oh yea, and all you army types better look out, too!

That sum***** is INTIMIDATING, lemme tell ya!

[cav58d]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Well, hopefully you'll be called out of reserve status again.  If the government plans on drafting me, I'll take up arms and dismantle it piece by piece.  Running to Canada is so boring.

Wow...You should be proud!  How can I be more like you!

[lasersailor184]

4- Members should post in a way that is respectful of other users and HTC. Flaming or abusing users is not tolerated.

[USRanger]

Quit sitting in front of your computers and do something FOR your country ya wussies.  God forbid someone should give up ONE WHOLE YEAR to earn the rights they've inherited.  Did y'all know men during WWII commited suicide when they were turned down for military service?  My, my, my how things have changed.

[Urchin]

Not to mention a big intimdating "command voice" that he uses on people who bother him.  

I tell you what, I saw a video on Youtube, it was like 15 ninjas against Lasersailor.  Now, don't get my wrong, Laser is a pretty intimidating 6'4 275 lbs of pure internet muscle... but even so, against 15 ninjas I was like "oh man, this will get ugly!".

But then, he just put his hands on his hips, and slowly turned in a circle, and looked each ninja in the eye in turn.  

And in turn, they fell to their knees, and cut open their OWN BELLYS!  

How cool is that?  And by cool I mean TOTALLY SWEET!

edit: mis-described Chuck's sensai.

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by Urchin
I tell you what, I saw a video on Youtube, it was like 15 ninjas against Lasersailor.  Now, don't get my wrong, Laser is a pretty intimidating 6'6 275" of pure internet muscle... but even so, against 15 ninjas I was like "oh man, this will get ugly!".  

6'4" actually...

Quit sitting in front of your computers and do something FOR your country ya wussies.

I believe the true downfall of Modern US culture came when some ****** said,

And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.

God forbid someone should give up ONE WHOLE YEAR to earn the rights they've inherited.

The only right we have inherited, as well as the only right ANYONE has, is the right to choose.  This is what our forefathers gave us.  It's sad that some socialists here think we should be conscripted into service of a socialist government.

[Golfer]

JFK is now a "******"

The right to choose was bought and paid for with blood.  The least you could do is respect them instead of calling them "******"s

Then again you have the right to do the opposite of that.