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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2006, 11:57:14 AM »
I have nothing good to say about GeeDubya.  The guy has let us all down.

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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2006, 11:58:51 AM »
Sandy,

Viet Nam didn't have the trade and economic implications that exist in the ME.

In another thread I had already stated I thought the only real option was the go long one. No change at this point in time.
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2006, 12:32:23 PM »
For those of you that say go home....

What if the same scenario held true in Japan, insurgency and uprisings when our troops were rebuilding the place...

In Germany, same....

Would going home been the answer there as well?
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2006, 12:59:51 PM »
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For those of you that say go home....

What if the same scenario held true in Japan, insurgency and uprisings when our troops were rebuilding the place...

In Germany, same....

Would going home been the answer there as well?


Yes indeed. Those countries started the war. If they didnt want the allied troops to stay and rebuild then they should have been granted that wish.
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2006, 02:15:18 PM »
Go Nuke
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2006, 02:57:22 PM »
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Yes indeed. Those countries started the war. If they didnt want the allied troops to stay and rebuild then they should have been granted that wish.


Ditto.
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2006, 03:04:28 PM »
Go Long is not an option. War wears on a public, they don't like it and turn against it over time as the body bags(and horror stories) keep coming home. You need the support of the public for war, plain and simple.

In this same time period ww2 was in the history books. How the president could think 12 years was an option is beyond me, he is learning the hard way.
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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2006, 03:51:45 PM »
Go big would just be seen as an American occupation for good and cause more harm, go long is the only option really, even then all it will achieve is more insurgents infiltrating the iraqi military undercover.
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2006, 03:59:41 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2006, 04:03:50 PM »
Go Home.  The muslim people are incapable of freedom.
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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2006, 04:15:08 PM »
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Go big would just be seen as an American occupation for good and cause more harm, go long is the only option really.


Do you realize how hypocritical that statement is?
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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2006, 04:33:40 PM »
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Do you realize how hypocritical that statement is?


Maybe i could have been more clear?  I think that going big could be seen by Iraqi's as a permanent occupation by American forces and cause more trouble with insurgency in Iraq and from the surrounding countries.

"for good" means permanent.

Going long and training the Iraqi forces would mean a huge recruiting drive - insurgents would get recruited into the security forces and destroy it from within.
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« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2006, 04:42:39 PM »
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Maybe i could have been more clear?  I think that going big could be seen by Iraqi's as a permanent occupation by American forces and cause more trouble with insurgency in Iraq and from the surrounding countries.

And staying long wouldn't? The longer you stay, the more permanent it becomes


Going long and training the Iraqi forces would mean a huge recruiting drive - insurgents would get recruited into the security forces and destroy it from within.

Wouldn't that mean going long would be bad?
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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2006, 05:18:06 PM »
I'm sort of with Charon (who has had an educated view on this since the get-go).

My view is split it into three and Go Big on the part we want most.

Also the Kurds seem to know what they want so I would like to see them separated off and helped but I'm sure Turkey wouldn't like that too much and we need to keep them on-side because of future need of access to the ex-soviet countries.

Go Home and let them kill each other is about the only other option but would probably result in a Taliban-like dictatorship IMHO.

To imagine we can instill democracy in Iraq is IMO completely bizarre and always has been.
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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2006, 05:24:05 PM »
go big
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