Author Topic: MADD: Breathalyzers For Everyone (Read 1907 times)

wooley · « **Reply #30 on:** November 22, 2006, 08:30:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
I wonder how many people are killed each year by drivers that are simply tired.

What's your point? I only ask because it seems you might be saying leave drink-drivers alone if we aren't also going to go after tired drivers. Of course that would be ridiculous wouldn't it...two wrongs not making a right and all that.

Angus · « **Reply #31 on:** November 22, 2006, 09:02:27 AM »

Look at one some things, - this is funny.
1. If you have somebody sober to breath for you whi not have him/her drive also?
2. That call's for a "breathing" service, - there would be demand on the market.
3. You can still start drinking once you're off
4. Does it sense pot?
5. How about fire-wire?

But getting serious, - this insurance idea was good. Let's say it brings a cheaper total insurance for instance....

soda72 · « **Reply #32 on:** November 22, 2006, 09:06:58 AM »

They should only install this system for people who have been convicted of a DWI.

Chairboy · « **Reply #33 on:** November 22, 2006, 09:14:01 AM »

Soda, that's the point of why this is so silly, they're saying that's not good enough, and there are people on this board who seem ok with that.

john9001 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 22, 2006, 10:43:59 AM »

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Originally posted by soda72
They should only install this system for people who have been convicted of a DWI.

that already happens in florida, the driver pays for the installation and every 10 min a warning buzzer goes off and you have to pull over and blow into the machine again. makes getting to work problematical on the interstate.

point of clarification, DWI is the old law, it means driving wile intoxicated, they have to prove you were intoxicated which is more difficult.

the DWI is still on the books but they have the new law, DUI, which is driving under the influence, that is much easier to prove because it is vague and arbitrary and most convictions are DUI. By the way, laws are not supposed to be vague and arbitrary.

rpm · « **Reply #35 on:** November 22, 2006, 10:54:19 AM »

The only people that should be concerned about it are people that habitually drive drunk. It will not effect you unless you are trying to break the law and put innocent people's lives at risk. It's a piece of safety equiptment.

Chairboy · « **Reply #36 on:** November 22, 2006, 10:57:49 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
The only people that should be concerned about it are people that habitually drive drunk. It will not effect you unless you are trying to break the law and put innocent people's lives at risk. It's a piece of safety equiptment.

RPM, your logic suggests that putting saltpeter or some other sort of anti-sex drug in the water is a good idea. Anyone who isn't a sex offender would be mailed pills that counteract the effect. It's just a safety procedure to stop rape, so it wouldn't affect you unless you were trying to break the law.

john9001 · « **Reply #37 on:** November 22, 2006, 11:02:28 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
The only people that should be concerned about it are people that habitually drive drunk. It will not effect you unless you are trying to break the law and put innocent people's lives at risk. It's a piece of safety equiptment.

you miss my point , you don't have to be drunk to get a DUI, you only have to be UNDER THE INFLUENCE.

boxboy28 · « **Reply #38 on:** November 22, 2006, 11:04:53 AM »

- Drunks kill around 40,000 people a year and yet prescription drugs kill over 200,000. Medical malpractice kills over 300,000 - but the media hasn't brainwashed Americans to be fearful or upset about the bigger dangers and so they don't care. The hyped specter of drunk driving deaths manipulates whining do-gooders to call for their own enslavement, anything to save a few lives.

source - http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/201106bigbrother.htm

I think we need a MaDD - death doctors.

What really is the problem is the impending police state we are moving to.............welcome to Germany 1943:O

john9001 · « **Reply #39 on:** November 22, 2006, 11:24:04 AM »

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Originally posted by boxboy28
- Drunks kill around 40,000 people a year and yet prescription drugs kill over 200,000.

40,000 a year are NOT killed by drunk drivers, numbers for 2004 are TOTAL deaths 42,636, total deaths for"alcohol related" is 16,694.

alcohol related deaths do not mean "innocent people killed by drunk driver". 45% of the alcohol related deaths are the drivers under the influence themselves, another 40% are the passengers under the influence riding with the drivers who were under the influence.

rpm · « **Reply #40 on:** November 22, 2006, 12:30:18 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
you miss my point , you don't have to be drunk to get a DUI, you only have to be UNDER THE INFLUENCE.

I understand and you are 100% correct on that point.

Gloves · « **Reply #41 on:** November 22, 2006, 12:33:35 PM »

Two words - bicycle pump. System circumvented.

Glove

WilldCrd · « **Reply #42 on:** November 22, 2006, 04:13:43 PM »

Here in Dallas the chnl 11 news lady reported that at the national MADD HQ they were pushing for the breatalizers to be installed in 1st offenders cars
They made no mention of them wanting them installed in EVERY new car!
Tho the reason is just I feel thats to much of a invasion into my personal and private rights.
Seems like here lately more and more groups are wanting to stuff like this to "protect" everyone but to me, its releving ppl of there responibilities.
Also its like punishing you before you commit a crime.

Chairboy · « **Reply #43 on:** November 22, 2006, 04:23:24 PM »

WilldCrd: RPM says that it's just a piece of safety equipment, and I think the implication is that if you don't want it in your car, WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?!

john9001 · « **Reply #44 on:** November 22, 2006, 04:50:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
WilldCrd: RPM says that it's just a piece of safety equipment, and I think the implication is that if you don't want it in your car, WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?!

because YOU will have to pay for that piece of equipment and it will have to be inspected so YOU will have to pay for the inspection but it's ok as long as it SAVES ONE LIFE.

oh lord, save us from the do-gooders for they know not what they do.