yak vs spit16

[df54]

is there any point in the flight envelope where a yak9u can have any advantage against spit 16

[humble]

The Yak is a faster plane so it has the raw speed to control the fight.

at 16,000 ft the yak is roughly 50 mph faster for example at mil power....the spits tremendous 16 pd boost almost evens the numbers out but the yak is still a bit faster under 20k. The spit out turns, out climbs and out accelerates the yak so the yak driver has to use his E to create a shot opportunity. Once the Yak gets in deep it will be unable to extend....

Personally I'd make a pass or two to size the spitty up and then go all angles looking to catch the spit carrying to much E....but given equal pilots a yak cannot out turn outclimb or out accelerate a spitXVI....

[aqhawasi]

Humble is right.  The Yak is really fast... at least the Yak9U.  It is also small (tough target), nimble, climbs well, and the best part is, people tend to underestimate a Yak9U.
In my experience, I find the Spit 16 has very poor gas consumption especially under Military or Emergency Power (which they will be at for a fight)... even when compared against the Yak which is not exactly plentiful with gas; however, taking off with 100% fuel on the Yak should not be a problem.  Because of the gas consumption, you can expect the Spit16 will try to end things pretty quickly... so if you are doing ok with gas, try to get the fight to run a bit long and he/she will start making some rash decisions you can capitalize on.
The other thing is, most Spit 16 pilots arent that great since they are just expecting the plane to get them out of every situation and be ubber... so they can be sloppy.
That said, a well flown Spit 16 with the same E or more, will beat a Yak9U one on one.  I think.

Peru

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by humble
Personally I'd make a pass or two to size the spitty up and then go all angles looking to catch the spit carrying to much E....but given equal pilots a yak cannot out turn outclimb or out accelerate a spitXVI....

Good advice.

- oldman

[humble]

and filmed it.

I segmented out 3 clips to make it easier to download and cut out dead space....

1st) the Yak is really an interceptor in my mind (similiar to the pony or 190) not really a "dog fighter" like the spit. So it is an E fighter and needs to be flown as such....

http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/yak1.ahf

This is after a bounce of a spitXVI....I go back up and buzz in on a few cons egressing from the field. Since one is a spitXVI I "lock in" since thats the purpose of the clip. Now I have alt and E....realistically if you dont then you beat the other pilot not the spitty. I'm not a particularly good yak driver....but this should give you a decent idea of the right type of fight...

Couple things to notice....

1) I never ever actually turn with him
2) I dont chase shots
3) I forgo "chasing" to use the vertical and transition back to "lag" when          
     possible....
4) when the 190 buzzes me I'm already set up to egress....I've pushed the spitty as far as I can and am leaving him hanging....

He happens to auger, this type of manuever kill comes from pushing a guy beyond his comfort level with the plane and his opponent....

190 augers a bit later for a bonus...again getting him in fight he isnt used to...

http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/yak2.ahf

This is a short clip of a la-7 defense right after the 190 goes in....good basic clip for defense....

http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/yak3.ahf

This should show a bit of how to fight yak in vertical....two things to note...

1) Do not get bogged down on any one con or chase.....
2)beware of IL-2's....personally I think both the plane and the people who fly it are total dweebs (much worse then spit or lala drivers:)) but no question the F3 supertailslide jockeys will chew you up....

Anyway hope this helps you a bit....

[mustard]

nice stuff humble. thanks

[bozon]

I agree, F3 should be disabled in the IL2. Also, why is it labeled as a bomber and the mossie is an attacker is beyond me.

[Yarbles]

Originally posted by humble
and filmed it.

I segmented out 3 clips to make it easier to download and cut out dead space....

QUOTE]

I would really like to see this could you let me know what program is needed to run it? and where to find it if necessary?

[humble]

The film viewer has the commands built right in. They are in the buttons on the top right hand part of the screen. Doesnt take much trying to figure them out. Also a pretty good help file in program....

[Yarbles]

Originally posted by humble
The film viewer has the commands built right in. They are in the buttons on the top right hand part of the screen. Doesnt take much trying to figure them out. Also a pretty good help file in program....

Film Viewer?

All i do is download onto my desk top and when I try to open the file I get asked for a program or find ome on line which it doesn't.

I am very interested in this as the Spit XVI and the Yak are what I cant make my mind up about  

 

[humble]

AH comes with a film viewer built in, the executable should be right in the   root folder for AH2