Author Topic: "AAGGHHHHH!!" or "I Wanna Cut My Suspenders and Go Straight Up!!" (Read 1233 times)

Maverick · « **Reply #15 on:** November 22, 2006, 10:15:21 PM »

Lessee, we have a gallon of coolant and an unknown amount of water from a hose into the oil filler. It's possible that the crankcase was full up to the cylinder skirt level and the rod could have broken from internal block hydrostatic lock rather than from the cylinder. Just a thought.

In the mean times it beats hearing they were in a collision or something like that shuckins. It's only money and ALL of your family members are healthy and safe. At least until you go barbarian on them for beating up the car anyhow.....

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #16 on:** November 22, 2006, 10:25:49 PM »

Yes, it's entirely possible to have filled the entire crankcase with water/coolant, put the cap back on, cranked it, and "hydrauliced" it enough to bend or break a rod or piston.

Normally this happens when a head or cylinder cracks, or the gasket leaks, filling the cylinder with coolant after the engine stops and the valves close. Or when a float in a carburetor sticks, or an injector sticks, and fills the cylinder up with fuel. Either way, you cannot compress a liquid, so hydraulic force splits something, or bends something.

Remember that an engine displaces as much air (volume) BELOW the pistons as it does above. So air, or in this case water/coolant, has to move when it turns over.

I've seen gasoline get in the oil enough to make a vapor. Then someone tries to start the engine and the ignition lights off the vapor in the crank case and blows the valve covers and sometimes the oil pan clean off. It's impressive.

Airscrew · « **Reply #17 on:** November 22, 2006, 11:19:14 PM »

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Originally posted by RTR
ahhh welll.....she makes me cheesecake once in a while, so I guess i can put up with it.

cheers,
RTR

so thats what they call that now...

nirvana · « **Reply #18 on:** November 22, 2006, 11:59:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I've seen gasoline get in the oil enough to make a vapor. Then someone tries to start the engine and the ignition lights off the vapor in the crank case and blows the valve covers and sometimes the oil pan clean off. It's impressive.

Sounds interesting, I'd like to see it, after who doesn't like a nice big bang every now and then?

Meatwad · « **Reply #19 on:** November 23, 2006, 12:10:02 AM »

Depends on what is being banged

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #20 on:** November 23, 2006, 12:26:45 AM »

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Originally posted by nirvana
Sounds interesting, I'd like to see it, after who doesn't like a nice big bang every now and then?

The guy with the 64 Corvette didn't like the nice big bang. At all. Cost him about $700 to fix, with a new oil pan, timing cover, valve covers, and a bunch of gaskets and seals. He doesn't just keep driving it if it floods anymore.

Rolex · « **Reply #21 on:** November 23, 2006, 05:43:29 AM »

I'd have to go along with Virgil here. Another factor being that the rod may not have been a perfectly manufacturered part.

Nilsen · « **Reply #22 on:** November 23, 2006, 06:08:56 AM »

Are there really that many parts inside a car??

Hmm... were can i find a class that teaches me these things (no im not a woman.. my passport proves it)

loser · « **Reply #23 on:** November 23, 2006, 06:57:22 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
my wife had a nice 1979 mustang we bought her brand new. a few years into the car, on a saturday during september I decide to take it for a spin on highway 3A between manomet where we lived to marshfield to visit some friends and go surfing. I load up my crap, fire up the pony engage reverse release the clutch and ........ nothing. shut her down pop the hood (I don't know why) everything looks fine. drop the hood fire up again same thing ..... nothing. look underneath, no drive shaft. go inside honey how did you get the car home last night? "the same way i always do i drove it home" honey the car doesn't have it's drive shaft did you hear any noises? " oh ya it made a clunk sound on white horse road. walk on out to white horse about a quarter mile up the road was my drive shaft on the shoulder. u joint had failed, dropped, dragged quite a bit, came off of the front spline, she coasted home completely clueless as from the point where it failed to our drive was fairly steeply down hill. gotta love the girls, bless their puffy breasts. and no she ain't a blonde.

pogo stick!

culero · « **Reply #24 on:** November 23, 2006, 07:52:08 AM »

Shuckins, start damage control mode by asking the fellow who's giving you the diagnosis for an estimate to do as he recommends.

Then make a few phone calls to get estimates for the exact same service. Seek out engine rebuilding specialists. I recently pulled one of the company trucks out of the shop I usually use (and trust, and still do) and sent it to an engine rebuilder when my primary diagnosed a bad engine. The general service shop's estimate: $4800. The completed job at the engine rebuilder: $2100.

Engine rebuilding is a specialty, and more efficient if you're set up to do it. I owned and operated my own general service garage for two decades, and I am fully qualified and experienced as a machinist/engine rebuilder. Yet, I farmed out almost all my engine and transmission rebuilds, because its more efficient to do so.

Also, call some local salvage yards and get estimates on used engines installed. Don't turn your nose up at the thought. A wrecked vehicle of about the same age as yours is likely to have an engine just as good as yours was just before your loved ones ****ed it up, and its usually significantly cheaper to go this route. Good salvage yards offer turnkey installation and a warranty period long enough to fully evaluate the installed engine.

culero

Mini D · « **Reply #25 on:** November 23, 2006, 08:08:45 AM »

You have a college age son that doesn't know how to fill a radiator with water?

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #26 on:** November 23, 2006, 08:51:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
You have a college age son that doesn't know how to fill a radiator with water?

LOL Sorry to say so do I
He is what I call "Tool Challlanged"

Smart as a whip.
But it would terrify me to see him with a power saw in his hands.

He's getting better though. Slowly.
And at least has the sense before he does something to double and then triple check with either me. Or someone in the know if he is about to do the right thing or not.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #27 on:** November 23, 2006, 09:01:41 AM »

The only downside to a rebuilt engine is you probably wont be able to trade it in at a dealer.

We had a Saturn that had a problem. I forget now what it was. But the Mechanic said it would be cheaper to replace the engine then to fix it.

When we went to trade it in at a dealer nobody would accept it as it ddnt have the original engine in it.

Not even the Saturn dealer would take it other then as scrap and then only offered $200 for it.
It was only 6 years old and other then the engine being replaced was other wise in outstanding condition inside and out.

I told the guy. You gotta do alot better then that. Your probably going to make damn near that much on it the first fender you take off.

He replied "We dont do those kind of repairs here."

I in no uncertain terms told him to go screw himself And we left.
I was starting to feel bad about whatr I just said untill just before we headed out the door I saw a sign that read "Collision Repair Specialists"

Sold it myself for 2K a week and a half later

Meatwad · « **Reply #28 on:** November 23, 2006, 09:07:48 AM »

Auto dealers/salesmen are crooks and scum, I cant stand them lying bastards one bit

Maverick · « **Reply #29 on:** November 23, 2006, 02:11:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Meatwad
Auto dealers/salesmen are crooks and scum, I cant stand them lying bastards one bit

What if they cover themselves with chocolate sauce Meatwad????