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Offline MrBill

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« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2006, 07:57:50 AM »
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Do you Believe in Angels?


Of course I believe! I Believe in Jesus too ... It does kinda piss me off when they start the leaf blower while I'm trying to sleep in on Sat morning ... But the lawn always looks terrific ... and so does Angel's sister.
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« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2006, 08:16:04 AM »
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Storch, have you thought that maybe the guy was gay and couldn't live with it. Now he is trying to communicate with you (WHAM -> George Michael...) because he probably likes you....

If I was you, I wouldn't pick up the soap (or anything else) EVER again in this house...


Keep us posted.
honestly, no that hadn't occurred to me even though I can see where a guy who's been dead for 30 years would be attracted to a fat 50 year old hairy assed guy.  and no I won't get my bellybutton waxed for a ghost to test your theory.

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« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2006, 09:51:14 AM »
(quote) Of course, I believe these angels are the people I loved who have died, and I truly think that they've come to save me and my friends on numerous occasions... (unquote)

Yes, Vudak, I tend to think the same way about angels.  Ties in with continuum of spirits and souls and energy not dying and that sort of thing.  Much easier to live considering the glass half full instead of half empty.

Another personal example, and this is embarrassing, but might be useful to someone else sometime, so thought I'd better share it.

I was mired in a deadend job and not providing for my family the way I should have been able to.  I was really getting down on myself.  I had been to various job interviews but nothing was working out.

I just couldn't seen to solve the problem on my own.

Then one day I see my phone message recorder blinking.  I listened.  The head of an organization himself was on the line giving me a long spiel about his group.  He said he had talked to so-and-so about me and thought I was perfect for a job he had.  

He outlined the job in detail and then, wonder of wonders, offered me the job right off, and with a high salary without all the usual bs negotiation.   He had tried to reach me at a previous job, and they had written his call down on a routine message pad and left it for the next time when I came to do some on-call work, which was not often.

He thought I was evading him by not returning his call.  So after several days he got my home phone number.  His call was a gift from the gods, the angels, my parents or other dearly beloved departed, or whatever.  They said, "Look, Dumdum is struggling, he isn't getting anywhere, throw him this bone."

That job helped me complete getting the kids launched on their own lives and careers.  It was basically walk across the street every two weeks and deposit the check in the bank for tuition.  I was able to help the second kid finance his degree and I did it four years until the third and last kid finished college.  

Then it was time to move on again -- strange how jobs seem the most interesting the first four years, just like high school or college.  But the kids were out of college and I was finally free from the major financial burdens of raising kids.  I love them dearly, but wow, are kids expensive!

That job from the wild blue restored my confidence in myself, and left me humble, realizing indeed no man is an island.  Tried to do it all myself and couldn't.  Now I'm grateful to accept help from whatever the source.

Angels?  You bet.  I need and cherish mine.  

P.S.  No matter how tough things get, do NOT punish yourself too much or else your trusty reliable body, no matter how strong it may have seemed all your life, some day might just decide, "Okay, Stupid here is so ungrateful, I quit.  Now try functioning when your body won't work, when you're afraid to go out of the house, when you can barely put one foot in front of the other."  

It's called agoraphobia, abnormal fear of being in public or open spaces, but it's really loss of confidence in yourself.  If you lose faith in yourself, everyone else will too.  Don't do that.  All animals shun losers.  Don't act like a loser and you won't be.  

End of sermon.  Go forth and thrive.
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« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2006, 10:07:06 AM »
I am not sure if you call it angel, ghost or just loved one from beyond, but had an experience which made me believer.

In the house I lived in at the time, we had a stove/oven that had one of those timers that you turn the dial and then buzz when time winds down. The maximum time that could be set on the thing was 60 minutes. In the 5 years we had lived in the house, I don't think we had ever used the buzzer one time.

One year on the anniversary of when my mother had died at 4:30 a.m. which is the time of day when she had died, I awoke to this buzzing noise. I went out to the kitchen to investigate, and that stove/oven buzzer was going off. Just weird coincidence? I think not.

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« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2006, 10:19:07 AM »
Storch, that was interesting. My family had that "thing" as well, and that means people in different corners of a house, fast asleep, and me, 250 miles away. Was really creepy.  Slam-bam, everybody awake, and there is nothing. (well, doors could not be seen slamming, just heard)
In relation to that, some of us had the experience of somebody's precence, and being held stuck in bed while well awake. Now that is really nasty, and enough to scare the crap out of. You can look at the clock and roll your eyes, you feel that someone is there, and sometimes see a shadow, but not move at all.
I found out eventually, - start with a finger, and you break the spell.
Funny stuff, or me being completely mad, but I know more who had this.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2006, 10:24:31 AM »
"When God needed to punish someone...he sent an angel.
Have you ever wondered what a creature like that must be like?
Your whole existence praising your God but always with one wing
dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?"

- The Prophecy


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« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2006, 10:27:22 AM »
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In relation to that, some of us had the experience of somebody's precence, and being held stuck in bed while well awake. Now that is really nasty, and enough to scare the crap out of. You can look at the clock and roll your eyes, you feel that someone is there, and sometimes see a shadow, but not move at all.
I found out eventually, - start with a finger, and you break the spell.
Funny stuff, or me being completely mad, but I know more who had this.


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« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2006, 10:41:51 AM »
That was fast, - and informative!
Somethings to add, - never happens properly with another person in the room! And you have full control on mind and hearing and eyes. That means inspecting everything in the room, checking the clock, etc. Heck, sometimes I even didn't realize I was frozen before I found out the hard way. But start with a finger and break the spell, funny isn't it.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2006, 10:45:19 AM »
So there you see Angus, you're not possessed by demons. No worries, you're just INSANE!

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« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2006, 11:13:19 AM »
BERSERK you mean :D
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2006, 11:23:35 AM »
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Ouija board.  It was sold as a game but is serious business.  I would stay as far away as I could from a ouija board.  Just don't play around with it, or even be there when it's in use.  That's exactly what they do, call up ghosts.  I know it sounds silly, but better safe than sorry.




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Why? Theres nothing wrong with playing with a Ouija board.

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« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2006, 01:15:04 PM »
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Why? Theres nothing wrong with playing with a Ouija board.


I've actually had a teary eyed girl make me promise on everything sacred to me that I would never, ever use a Ouija board.

Whether they really can summon spirits or whether they just mess with your head royally, they're bad news.
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« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2006, 01:43:32 PM »
I've never had any problem at all out of mine, except once it didn't work for a day or two, my friend said the spirits were mad at me LOL

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« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2006, 02:07:20 PM »
I think the bigger question is do you believe in active participation by God, Angels, etc in your life or not.

I've been wrestling with this bigtime since my two kids were killed in a car wreck 14 months ago.

To believe in an active participating God, means he chose to let my kids die, while if others are to be believed, he's intervened in their lives to protect them or their families.

I have a hard time with that.  I can accept the notion of God, and I do believe i'll see my kids again, but I also have to believe that stuff happens.  Two cars coming together at 60 MPH means people are going to die.  It just happens, not as part of a plan or God deciding to kill my kids.

It leaves it on me to deal with it though.  He gave me free will to choose and will be there in the end, but I don't believe he or his angels are doing anything active in my life.  Again, to accept that means he chose to let my kids die, and I don't want anything to do with a God who would by choice let my kids die as part of some plan, and put us through all we've gone through the last 14 months to teach me something.

As Vudak mentions I do believe that those who have gone before us are around us always.  My Grandfather, who outside of my father was the most honest and caring man I've ever known, had one of those near death experiences when he had his heart attack.  Now this was a church going, God fearing man, and when he 'came back' from it, his perspective had changed.  His comment was that the ministers had it wrong.

He said that those people who were part of your life are always there and he described it quite clearly.  This isn't someone who would make it up.  So I believe my kids, my Dad, my grandparents are with me 'in spirit'.  It's not much comfort though, at least not so far since the kids died.
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« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2006, 02:11:07 PM »
Just to add to the above.  2 months prior to her death, my 15 year old daughter had been nearly killed in a 4 wheeler accident while at my mom's place up north.  

That she survived was a 'miracle'.  Her face was shattered yet she didn't lose her sight, even though a branch just missed her eyes.  It was nip and tuck at the hospital as to whether she'd pull through.

Had things stopped there, I would probably have been a big believer in God intervening, as her surviving that accident was amazing.

But to have her killed 2 months later, having overcome all that, just doesn't fit with any sort of divine intervention.

I actually had someone suggest that God did the first accident to prepare us for the second.  That seemed kinda sick to me.
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