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Offline DREDIOCK

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Why is the P-38 so underestamated in Aces High
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2006, 07:31:58 PM »
As with all the other planes in the Arena.
In the right hands the 38 is an outstanding plane.

But its not an EZmode plane so you wont see as many people in it.

But for those who have taken the time to learn it properly.
It is one of the best and mot dangerous in the game.

Unfortunately, Like the P51, FW, Early model 109s and Jugs most dont take the time to learn how to learn it peoperly.

I dont regularly fly the 38 But it only takes me about 3 seconds to recognise someone who knows it.
If they do I know Im in for a tough fight.
If they dont I know Im getting some fast food for dinner :D
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« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2006, 07:35:09 PM »
The real P-38 easily outturned any fighter Germany produced in the war, and each engine was capable of about 2,000 horsepower.  Ground crews regularly set the engines to ratings in excess of 1,800 horsepower.

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in RL, you would'nt hear a complaint from Richard Bong or Thomas McGuire, or Larry "Scrappy" Blumer.


That's because they got real P-38s and not undermodelled pieces of junk.

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« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2006, 07:46:11 PM »
I don't know.  I kind of like my old 38G.  Does everything i want it to.

Having never flown a real 38, i'd be pushing it to claim it's designed wrong in here.

I'm an average stick at best, and I feel confident going up against any other plane in it.  There are those times I run into a far better pilot then me, and then I'm toast, but that's my fault not my 38G.
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« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2006, 07:59:17 PM »
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Tru its not my ride our style.

Stang your one of the 10 guys flynn in the game at this point do you ever fly a 38?
I fly the 38 when the whim strikes me... I love the plane, but like you it doesn't fit me the best.  I usually like to go against superior numbers and the 38 isn't great at that unless it has alt.  However, I usually land more kills in it than I do in the 109 or spit.  You just have to be a tad more patient in it, and know when to dump the flaps and get slow, and especially when not to.

It's all Corky's fault...

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« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2006, 08:01:12 PM »
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That's because they got real P-38s and not undermodelled pieces of junk.
:rofl

You're off your rocker, noob.

Fly the 38 against a zeke and I think you'll like it much better... in fact it should be untouchable in that situation.  That's what Bong and the boys flew against.  They never had to deal with the Spit XVI or La7 in it.  

The P-38 is a great plane.

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« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2006, 09:15:03 PM »
The 38 is easy to fly tough to master...:cool:
Quote from: hitech on Today at 09:27:26 AM
What utter and compete BS, quite frankly I should kick you off this bbs for this post.

The real truth is you do not like the answer.

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« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2006, 09:25:24 PM »
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The real P-38 easily outturned any fighter Germany produced in the war, and each engine was capable of about 2,000 horsepower.  Ground crews regularly set the engines to ratings in excess of 1,800 horsepower.

 

That's because they got real P-38s and not undermodelled pieces of junk.



I would hardly classify the P-38 as an undermodelled piece of junk in AH.  True, not all the stuff is modeled as it was, such as HP ratings for the engines but it's hardly the gimped plane you make it out to be.

It's a jack of all trades, not a master in one area but like the Hellcat, it can perform in all areas quite well.   A lot also depends on the pilot but that seems to be lost on a lot in here that think that it's all plane and the pilot is secondary.   So some players see guys that are experienced in the P-38 make it dance in the sky and then they try and do it themselves only to end up cannon fodder because they can't do what the experienced P-38 pilot does and then they label the plane as undermodeled or a POS since they don't know how to properly get all they can get out of the plane.

Just my dos centavos.


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« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2006, 09:26:28 PM »
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It's all Corky's fault...

:furious



Really?  I thought it was Dose's fault.



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« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2006, 09:27:23 PM »
I was under the impression that the P38 was underflown, not underestimated. It's like every other plane, I suppose- it's great when it's flown to its strengths, and crappy when it's not.

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« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2006, 10:38:08 PM »
the rv38 is a much better plane

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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2006, 11:40:47 PM »
Husky01 has 430 posts yet I've never seen him before.

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« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2006, 11:50:48 PM »
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the rv38 is a much better plane


Tonight I pushed an RV-8 to 504 mph diving from 20,000 feet.... About 280 mph beyond VnE.... Controls didn't even stiffen. Filmed it too.

Our P-38J has a turn radius of around 580 feet with full flaps. It's a heavy airplane. In contrast, the Spit16 has a turn radius of 445 feet. No genius required to see what wins in a flat turning contest... Which is why a decent P-38J pilot won't get into that situation. However, a good F6F pilot will flat turn with the Spit16 and eat it alive... Each plane has its strengths and weaknesses. Good pilots fight to their plane's strengths and try to lure the enemy into fighting to his weaknesses. Really skilled pilots can utilize everything their plane has to offer. That makes them very dangerous.

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« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2006, 12:01:37 AM »
awww hell... widewing... don't tell me that... I always end up turning with spit16's.

I get the sickening feeling that this is going to be like one of those roadrunner cartoons where the coyote doesn't fall until he looks down. :)
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« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2006, 12:04:55 AM »
Strange this topic came up after i was going to fly the 38 this camp. It took about 8 hours to strike that idea.

I did like the load out

1-DT
1-1000 lbs
50 fuel


Sounds perfect 25 mins in the air 1 egg for a gv, 150 cannon and 2000 mg's. Also i loved the skins and the views are better than the new f4u.

Cool bird but its a "duck" and couldn't bring myself to fly with the hoard our fly at mount Everest heights.

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Re: Why is the P-38 so underestamated in Aces High
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2006, 12:06:49 AM »
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So why is it not used all that much like the spit or la7?

The P38 has an elitest society of cartoon plane pilots. The Hierarchy tree looks like this:
5% - The Secret Society of P38 Pilots:noid
20% - Those that think they are good, but only know how to BnZ
15% - Those that try, and fail miserably to fight in it
60% - Those that use it for bombing

Hense why it is rare to come across a P38 that flies on the edge of the P38 envelope.