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« Reply #75 on: December 06, 2006, 11:34:39 AM »
I still can't figure out what the 38 is doing wrong in AH?  I guess I must fly it too much :)
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« Reply #76 on: December 06, 2006, 11:38:38 AM »
I got sick of defending it, thats why I've joined the Dark Side. :)
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« Reply #77 on: December 06, 2006, 12:19:17 PM »
I had a P-51 and a 190 diving on my low n slow 38J last night... both missed for a good 20 minutes then 51 hit me hard twice, his second hit on me was his last as I turned hard and caught him moving away and blasted him.... he didn't go far and he died. He was on 200 and asking how in the world I was still up.... :rofl

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« Reply #78 on: December 06, 2006, 01:10:32 PM »
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Originally posted by FX1
If you don't have a advantage in a 38 your dead.


Exactly!  But to many this is 'know how to fly it' or 'flying it right'  
I can't even remember losing to a 38 that did not jump me while fighting someone else or did not start with a big advantage.

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« Reply #79 on: December 06, 2006, 01:33:11 PM »
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Exactly!  But to many this is 'know how to fly it' or 'flying it right'  
I can't even remember losing to a 38 that did not jump me while fighting someone else or did not start with a big advantage.


That's probably true of lots of 38 drivers as it is  of any other type of plane and pilot, but this one here and many of the guys I fly with tend to come in co-alt or below the fight.

I know how often I'm asking the guy above me to come on down on 200.

My preference has always been knife fighting in the weeds.  And more often then not I wade into a horde :)

Doesn't mean I don't die often, but that's where the fun is :aok
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« Reply #80 on: December 06, 2006, 01:57:53 PM »
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Exactly!  But to many this is 'know how to fly it' or 'flying it right'  
I can't even remember losing to a 38 that did not jump me while fighting someone else or did not start with a big advantage.


More than likely those P-38 flyers you ran into weren't experienced in flying the P-38.  Not to mention that you're probably over exaggerating your prowess against the Lightning.


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« Reply #81 on: December 06, 2006, 02:23:57 PM »
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More than likely those P-38 flyers you ran into weren't experienced in flying the P-38.  Not to mention that you're probably over exaggerating your prowess against the Lightning.


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Maybe, but you ve gone down every time we met.  And believe you me! You had alt, :rofl
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« Reply #82 on: December 06, 2006, 02:42:51 PM »
Ahhhhhh Aerial, now you've forced me to dig for this film...


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« Reply #83 on: December 06, 2006, 03:36:02 PM »
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to think that i've been flying it at 8k and below into hordes with the rest of the 80th.  sheesh, i always wondered what i was doing wrong.


The only thing you do wrong is land..........
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« Reply #84 on: December 06, 2006, 03:41:53 PM »
2 questions...


What's a "Lufberry"?


What's "Cross Controlling"?



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« Reply #85 on: December 06, 2006, 03:44:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Brooke
For you guys who fly P-38's a lot, what do you do about the view through the gunsight in the P-38G?  That thick layer of glass makes it so that I have a hard time seeing an aircraft I'm targeting.  Is there anything you guys do about that (other than not fly the G model)?

Also, for those of you who fly it a lot, what are some of your favorite tactics?


Brooke it has forced me to fly the J and L only.. I cant see thru that combat glass..But since I cant fly the 38 very well Im sure this is of no interest to anyone..
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« Reply #86 on: December 06, 2006, 05:08:53 PM »
Ive killed enough players that dove on my lower P38 to say bollocks to the "you must have alt" crowd...sorry.   It is true that it is easier to kill your enemy when you have alt...the same can be said about any plane.  Heck, just last night I got bounced by a few higher cons...110s and 51s...they died.  Not always the case, but it does happen...more frequently than some of you guys think...i guess.
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« Reply #87 on: December 06, 2006, 05:17:53 PM »
P38 could, and can in AH, outturn 109s. What I think you are doing wrong is comparing the J/L to E and F. P38G wouldn't have been fighting the E version often, but the P38G can outturn the 109F. I have no trouble outturning 109G2-109K4 in a J or L. Sometimes a good pilot will give me some trouble but the trusty ole P38 can fly slower than the 109 and once I get behind a 109, if it tries turning will soon realize it's not getting anywhere and will use it's speed to get away. Seems a lot like real life to me...

The P38 doesn't have to have alt to win... but like i posted earlier, a lot of people that think they know the P38 think that is how they have to get kills. Hell if I encounter a TnB plane in the MA and there are no other enemies around, if on the rare occasion I am higher, I burn E until it is co alt and hope they don't run.

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« Reply #88 on: December 06, 2006, 05:22:32 PM »
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Maybe, but you ve gone down every time we met.  And believe you me! You had alt, :rofl
Its not me.  Its the 38.




LOL!  Sure I have...what is your in game CPID?

*EDIT* you're elmerfud in the arenas, correct?  If so, I've never run across you before in any of the arenas or even seen that CPID online when I've been online and a further check shows that we've never fought and I went back all the way to Tour 12 when I first started.

So I guess my previous comment was valid, you're obviously overstating your prowess.


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« Reply #89 on: December 06, 2006, 05:28:07 PM »
'38 is a great ride, especially if you like having the option for the air-ground role...it carries I nice amount of ord without slowing you down too badly.

I wish I could fly the thing as well as guys like Wolfala or Corky :)

One bad thing about it in the air-to-air role...if you mess up (as I do ever so often), it can become a really big target for anything with really big canons.

Probably one of the best threads I read last summer was the in the Aircraft forum, where you guys were discussing the differences between G/J/L etc