Author Topic: P-47: Most underestimated plane? (Read 2843 times)

bj229r · « **Reply #30 on:** December 06, 2006, 07:30:17 PM »

I was gonna quit the game until the "N" came out---I usually fly sans wingman, and the N is heap much survivable, and yep, if the are 10 Rooks about, they always dive on me as soon as the see the P47 icon. Cant kill them more often than not, but I can fend off the attacks..love the plane:aok

Big Mickey · « **Reply #31 on:** December 06, 2006, 07:30:22 PM »

Hey Plantano,

I think your right on the money brother! I fly the jug all the time, heck I used to be in the 56th before I took a couple year break from AH. Tell Nomde, Frenchy and Sancho I says hey! I used fly under the name Avid back then.

The key with the jug is patience. You can't just go barreling in without good SA and an even better plan for an escape route. This is not very conducive to the Counter Strike, "Must have action immediately" mentality so prevalent in the MA's. I think it gets underutalized for just this reason. You need to take the time to get some alt, and in this ride that's more time then normal, and then pick your engagements wisely. Conserve your E and then bug out before you blow it all.

I feel another key factor in flying it is gunnery. Something I am just horrible at. You need to kill quick and bug out before you blow all your energy. I was always amazed at how fast Frenchy could dispatch a bad guy.

Lastly I think the other key to flying a Jug is that there's nothing more beautiful than a pair of them

Keep the bad guy in the middle and work those 16 50cals towards each other and you have a recipe for killin.

Big Mickey

sonic23 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 06, 2006, 07:49:09 PM »

Yes i still underestimate it because i dont think there was anyone out there who flew a 47 could beat me in a spit16. Then i found YUCCA, he beat me once and I got him 5 times in the DA. so i guess its possible but not going to happen to often.

and i laugh at all those people who said yuccas p47 could out turn my spit. it cant out turn it but in the right hands can outmanuever it in the vert rolling scissors especailly if u make a mistake. that explains my one death.

bizz · « **Reply #33 on:** December 06, 2006, 07:51:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Roscoroo
it takes more time to learn the jugs then say a spittoon or lala ... the jug takes timing of fuel management , precise flap usage,throttle management, and getting to know all its limits at any alt . its not a get in and win plane .

That is exactly the reason I never underestimate a JUG. Everytime I see one I always assume that the guy flying it has his act together.

One I first got here from WBs I was flying a pony and saw low jug and started to lick my lips. I made a couple of passes on him and let myself get co alt co E and it quickly turned into a knife fit. To make a long story short Frency made a fool out of me. Lesson learned, I never underestimated a jug again

Masherbrum · « **Reply #34 on:** December 06, 2006, 08:25:43 PM »

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Originally posted by zorstorer
One great thing about the Mk1's is if someone dies to them, they in effect killed themselves by fighting the Mk1's fight.

Amen. This is true with the entire plane set.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #35 on:** December 06, 2006, 08:30:47 PM »

if you can master the N's hammerhead turn (i can get it about 1 outta 3 attempts ) you'll out turn 95% of the spit 16's everytime with it ... but its extreamly difficult. airspeed /rudder/throttle management has to be right on within a 5 or 10 mph area . this manuver will garrentee you the evil how the hell you do that pm's almost everytime

my fav fights are 190's vs jugs as for there closely matched and the fight can go either way at anytime .

evenhaim · « **Reply #36 on:** December 06, 2006, 08:32:09 PM »

in my experiences whenever im runnning a cap or looking for prey , if i c a lone jug more often than not he becomes a dead jug but when i see two or threeflyin in close formation its usually the gosh darn 56th and i run my *** of cause they usually have alt on me lol especailly when i c a three jug formmation comprising of : 1 p47n 1 d11 1 d25 then i KNOW that it is the 56 lol yucca , nomde, and somethimes bluekitty lol . but yah otherwise jugs make a good in flight snack lol

Killjoy2 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 06, 2006, 08:32:36 PM »

All this talk about Thunderbolts makes me want to see one. This is a thumb from the Chino Airshow.

http://www.warbird-photos.com/pofairshow05-1/index4.html

Keeler101 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 06, 2006, 08:36:09 PM »

Most underestamating comes from it being big and heavy but it can do it all

Big M is right on

Beware the Thunderbolt

Overlag · « **Reply #39 on:** December 06, 2006, 08:42:59 PM »

alot of planes are underestimated. but yes, f4u1 and p47d11 are top of that list.

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Originally posted by Kuhn
Love the JUG!! Just aim and hold down the trigger for what seems forever and you still have a ton of ammo left. Oh yeah, its a good fighter in the right hands.

i generally run out of fuel before ammo so only take 1066+1066 rounds instead of 1700+1700.... lighter plane even better

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Originally posted by Platano
But back on the convergence issue, I fly with the outer guns at 375 and the inner's at 400....this way they kinda cross thier path's on the way out in case im in CLose..... Cant go Wrong

hehe mine are set at the same.... got in way too close in a turn fight with a 109K and my stream of bullets from each wing hit both his wings right at the root.... took BOTH off instantly was so funny i wish i had a video lol....

Spatula · « **Reply #40 on:** December 06, 2006, 09:13:47 PM »

I love the D25 and N models. Never really liked the D11, too slow and vis not as good. I just love the dive on it

so easy to control. Love the 8x50cals too they make short work of just about anything. I find that people do underestimate it, a lot of people just dont expect you to throw it round, and when you do you can catch em out. Prob is once it gets down below 250 all the wind just disappears from its sails, so you gotta get it over and done with very quickly if you play the suprise-a-jug-is-turning game. They're great at high alts too. Soak up damage like a big damage sponge too

But normally you have to be quite selective in the jug if you want to get home alive. Once your low n slow or caught out, its a death-trap.
But with nearly all fights, its not the plane thats underestimated, its the pilot. A good pilot will dictate the fight even in an inferior machine.

parin · « **Reply #41 on:** December 06, 2006, 09:48:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Platano
hey there Parin...

I must apologize for my childish ignorant unsusual behavior on 200 the other night as I had one too many cups of Hennesy:o

lol 200 is like smack talk on the B-ball court for me. No worries

I will have to try that convergence setup. Sounds like 50cal shotgun.

DEMONSLAYER · « **Reply #42 on:** December 06, 2006, 10:08:38 PM »

id say the ki61 is the most underestimated plane in the game.

it is awesome in a dive has pretty good ammo and can out turn most anything.

but i dont fly it im just saying.

SAS_KID · « **Reply #43 on:** December 06, 2006, 10:32:09 PM »

I say the P40's are if anyone has run into me when i was flying them like 2 months ago.

I never under estimate jug's since i usually think its BluKitty.

bozon · « **Reply #44 on:** December 07, 2006, 02:56:06 AM »

P47 is a POS. They are out manuvered in almost every category by almost every plane in the set. I always attack them on sight, recklessly, as they are the easiest target in the sky.

What the heck are you doin' Platano?! don't tell them it's great or they'll stop attacking us. Next thing you know we'll have to chase them to get a fight...