Author Topic: UN claims cow emissions more damaging to planet than automobiles. (Read 1041 times)

Excel1 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 12, 2006, 01:12:52 AM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
You can also blame the EU for mass production of products that are not consumed. From memory there's some 30% of dairy products that we throw away each day.

How do you guys sleep at night with the millions starving in china and err other places?

On the bovine methane thing, someone should tell the un that lightning ignites and burns the methane off... thought that was common knowledge

Nilsen · « **Reply #31 on:** December 12, 2006, 05:39:29 AM »

Dont fish fart?

There must be more fish in the world than cows. Fish doesnt give you gass either so i suggest you start eating more fish and chop the nuts of all the cows so they dont breed.

Chop a cow nut, eat a fish and save the world.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #32 on:** December 12, 2006, 07:56:02 AM »

Dont MAKE me quote Carlin again LOL

the EARTH is fine

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #33 on:** December 12, 2006, 07:58:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
Dont fish fart?

Dunno but they do piss and crap.
Which is why I will never drink straight water without it first having been sterilized with Alcohol

Nilsen · « **Reply #34 on:** December 12, 2006, 08:27:32 AM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I will never drink straight water without it first having been sterilized with Alcohol

that makes sense!

lazs2 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 12, 2006, 08:36:36 AM »

My head hurts... it's all so confusing...

How is a person to know what is the right thing to do to stop all this global warming and misery? The guilt is allmost too much to bear!

perhaps we can get the UN to just put out a list of all the bad things we should all stop doing and we can go by that and feel good about ourselves again?

vor... lead oxidizes on the outside quite rapidly (whitish powder) and does not further oxidize or contaminate the ground around it. If this were not true we would not find lead bullets from say the civil war or revolutionary war buried for centuries and in perfect shape with no lead contamination around the site.

lazs

indy007 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 12, 2006, 08:51:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin

Does this mean that bullfighting will now be politically correct?

It's not?

I guess Pleto my championship fighting Rooster is probably considered a bad thing too.

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How do you balance out the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions with PETA?

Collateral damage during the Cowicide Campaign. Furthermore, we can confiscate their stray animal killing equipment to further our own cause.

...I should pass out signup sheets.

Angus · « **Reply #37 on:** December 12, 2006, 09:09:43 AM »

Since we're in on methane (3 main greenhouse gases are methane, CO2 and...water (with the given temperature)), modern cowfart has this to tell:
1. Ruminants were abundant in ancient times.
2. Fossil fuel wasn't.
3. Ancient ruminants farted.
4. There were no cars farting.

Okay? No, not yet. The main mass of Methane is tied up in the permafrost near the N-Pole cap. That's enough to make a farting cow completely silly.
The newest news is that the polar cap on the north is expected to be...GONE...in 40 years. And there is the reason why so many a global warm worrier getts the goosebumps,- that is possibly enough methane to get the glosbe into a vicious circle, - hotter areas will release massive amount of steam, which is a global warming gas as such, etc etc, untill you have water hitting the boiling point. From there, there is no return, the estimated equilibrum is a whooping temperature of melting lead. Nice little Venuses brother.
Anyway, good to bring methane up. Yes it is a warming gas, released by not only cows, but several sources, - it's a price we pay in that form for cheaper McDonald's etc. Oh, sheep are ruminants too.....

myelo · « **Reply #38 on:** December 12, 2006, 09:16:52 AM »

They don't fart it, they burp it.

(never missing the chance to say "fart" and "burp" in the same sentence)

Angus · « **Reply #39 on:** December 12, 2006, 11:22:26 AM »

Myelo of AH? My old squaddie from as old as Lone Wolfs?

Fart, burp, - emit.

By the way, a cow creates as much as 200 litres of saliva per day. However that's a rotational thing. Just something similar happens with rotting vegetation, - (xcept trees with a proper trunk, - never miss the chance to use the word "trunk"

). So this is a bit complicated, - but forests would be better than burping cows. Anyway, the fossil fuel thingie is a tad simpler, but not too simple. Increased CO2 boosts up plants in sunnier (and warmer also) areas, they get the plant suger they're after (the C) faster, - they need less photosynthesis for the gramme so to speak.
Actually, flower growers and generally greenhouse growers (industrial sizes) use CO2 to enhance growth. Up here at least. But they can turn down the valve of the gas cylinders when we get a good breath air from the continent of Europe. (Industrial Zones, - even 2000 km away, in a good wind, the CO2 will jump upwards!)

VOR · « **Reply #40 on:** December 12, 2006, 12:34:21 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
vor... lead oxidizes on the outside quite rapidly (whitish powder) and does not further oxidize or contaminate the ground around it. If this were not true we would not find lead bullets from say the civil war or revolutionary war buried for centuries and in perfect shape with no lead contamination around the site.

lazs

I was thinking about the cow, who would probably have a severe reaction to fast moving lead. Better to use depleted uranium and err on the safe side of environmental awareness.

Angus · « **Reply #41 on:** December 12, 2006, 04:26:03 PM »

From Lasz:
"vor... lead oxidizes on the outside quite rapidly (whitish powder) and does not further oxidize or contaminate the ground around it. If this were not true we would not find lead bullets from say the civil war or revolutionary war buried for centuries and in perfect shape with no lead contamination around the site.

lazs "

It stays....mostly, - but consider that very little quantity is needed to count as poisoned. That's why some countries vote for different ammo - especially shotgun pellets, - because of the mass fired and the scattering.

FBBone · « **Reply #42 on:** December 12, 2006, 05:33:30 PM »

Didn't the Earth emerge from an ice age before there were automobiles? Musta' been the farts!! I'd say global warming has been occurring for quite some time now. Perhaps I'll ponder this over a nice steak.

cpxxx · « **Reply #43 on:** December 12, 2006, 05:43:28 PM »

You know it occurs to me that after a night drinking beer. The er... resultant er.....emissions are adding to global warming too.

Mind you, that's not a good enough reason for me to give up drinking beer. Perhaps someone could come up with an environmentally friendly beer? A green beer if you like:aok

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #44 on:** December 12, 2006, 06:02:38 PM »

Not to worry. A mini Ice age is OTW

National geographic-Study warns Mini Ice age May be comming soon

"The study supports computer model predictions suggesting that global warming will switch off the North Atlantic current in the next 50 to 100 years
Still, Quadfasel said, "This observation is really important, even though it's at the limit of accuracy. The main message, I think, is right."

Many scientists have predicted this effect. Global warming already appears to be injecting more fresh water into polar seas due to increased precipitation and the melting of the Greenland ice cap.

This freshening of the North Atlantic current makes its waters less dense—so they don't sink down to depths at which they would then be transported back south.

As result, the circulation stalls, with warmer water no longer being drawn north.

Measurements of salinity levels in the North Atlantic over the last 50 years show "a significant trend toward lower salinity all over the place," Quadfasel said.

Evidence from prehistoric times shows that it is possible for northern air temperatures to drop by 10ºC (18ºF) within decades.

These abrupt changes are intimately linked to switches in ocean circulation, experts say

New Scientist - Failing Ocean Current Raises fears of Mini Ice age

"The ocean current that gives western Europe its relatively balmy climate is stuttering, raising fears that it might fail entirely and plunge the continent into a mini ice age.

The dramatic finding comes from a study of ocean circulation in the North Atlantic, which found a 30% reduction in the warm currents that carry water north from the Gulf Stream.

The slow-down, which has long been predicted as a possible consequence of global warming, will give renewed urgency to intergovernmental talks in Montreal, Canada, this week on a successor to the Kyoto Protocol"

Seems its happened before
Hoover Institution, Stanford University -Warmer Days and Longer Lives

And a rather exellent read on the last one

Scott A Mandia Assoc Professor -physical sciences - The Little Ice age in Europe