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Offline Phil

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Stall Buzzer...
« on: December 13, 2006, 01:29:21 PM »
Gents
I've checked OPTIONS - PREFERENCES - SOUNDS....
The stall Buzzer is at %80 and moved it up to 100%
In training I purposely stall and the buzzer is not heard. Plane shakes like hell but buzzer is not activated/heard :confused:

Can you help me out ?

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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2006, 01:33:09 PM »
Can you hear the other effects such as Gear up and down, Flaps up and down ?

I just wonder if you have the effects turned on with the master slider?

Also you may have difficulty hearing it above engine noise, so take off, switch off engine and ease back on the stick and see if you hear anything then!

I have very bad hearing but none the less hear the Stall Buzzer. Mind you I have set my engine noise lower to hear all the othert effects and Vox!
« Last Edit: December 13, 2006, 01:40:14 PM by Blagard »

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SOUNDS....
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2006, 01:53:25 PM »
Yep...
all sounds are heard...
Just the buzzer. Can't seem to be activated (?)

Anyone else with advice ?

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2006, 02:35:59 PM »
Phil,

Might be a good idea to post into the Technical support forum as I really don't think you have missed switching something on.

But as a final comment, the stall warning comes in before the aircraft starts to shake, it comes in at a lowish volume that increases as the stall gets closer, so you would hear it before the stall and maybe not associate it with it.

If you really have tried flying engine off by gliding and then pulled back gently to reduce speed until stalled and heard nothing but silence then technical support really is all I can suggest.

Regards.

PS With my crap hearing it is not so much a buzz as note on a wind instrument played off key! It's not so different to the reed used in a Cessna 150.

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Stall Buzzer...
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2006, 02:43:36 PM »
I know that this isn't the point of this thread, but I'm pretty sure that World War Two fighters didn't even have stall horns.  Maybe a few did, but the training material always instructs pilots to use feel as a stall indicator, not sound.

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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2006, 03:26:40 PM »
Hopefully they still do! - Certainly the instructors will tell you and show you what happens.

You can usually feel the onset of a stall by control feedback, sound (wind noise) etc. You certainly should never wait for the warner to sound as that would be a very late response (unless as below)!

When landing in AH I still do as taught on light aircraft, flare and hold off and let the aircraft settle and in doing this, the later stage usually has the stall warning whining away. If the hold off is judged well, your wheels are only just above the runway and the contact when it comes, barely felt.

Landing techniques obviously vary from one type to another with many modern aircraft actually being flown onto the ground with a positive contact

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2006, 04:18:59 PM »
Look under options/preferences/flight on the clipboard.

I would wager you have to uncheck the box "Enable Stall Limiter".

If this is checked you will not stall and therefore the buzzer is not going to sound.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2006, 05:01:59 PM »
Also,  make sure you have stall1.wav and stall2.wav in your HTC/Aces High II/Sounds folder.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2006, 05:16:49 PM »
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
I know that this isn't the point of this thread, but I'm pretty sure that World War Two fighters didn't even have stall horns.  Maybe a few did, but the training material always instructs pilots to use feel as a stall indicator, not sound.



Might be true Benny... but does your seat vibrate when you pull into stall?

In a REAL plane, there are so many clues as to when a plane enters stall, that cant just be reproduced on a 19'' Monitor and in front of a computer. Stall buzz is a help for the Sim pilot.


Besides, im pretty sure there WERE WW2 planes with stall horns.... but im sure some of the more knowledgable will drop in on that.
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2006, 05:17:51 PM »
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Originally posted by Gooss
Also,  make sure you have stall1.wav and stall2.wav in your HTC/Aces High II/Sounds folder.


Actually Goos, if hes using default sounds, hell only have a "token file" in his sounds folde. Since a few patches ago, default sounds are in a .res file.
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Re: I bet
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2006, 05:34:23 PM »
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Look under options/preferences/flight on the clipboard.

I would wager you have to uncheck the box "Enable Stall Limiter".

If this is checked you will not stall and therefore the buzzer is not going to sound.


It is a Stall Warning device not a "you have stalled Device" so it should sound off before you get to that critical point. However:

I just tried this out on-line. Engine off after climbing out, the stall horn only just humming away with the Stall Limiter Enabled. With engine on I bet many would not hear it.

You could be right McDeath, but if Phil checked it out engine off he should still hear it. The only reason I suggested engine off is because it so long as others are not flying nearby the stall horn is about the only thing you will hear, if you're slow enough!

BTW I have not tested further but even with Stall Limiter enabled you can get the aircraft to the point when it shakes something rotten. With the Limiter unchecked you would normally hear the horn loud and clear at this late point!
« Last Edit: December 13, 2006, 05:43:28 PM by Blagard »

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will look further more....
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2006, 06:51:42 PM »
Thanks everyone !~

The "enable" stall option is unchecked. Never changed that parameter since I've been playin'

Will try the stall w/o the engine to see if the buzzer is in the background...

THANKS AGAIN:aok

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Re: will look further more....
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2006, 04:09:16 AM »
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Originally posted by Phil
Thanks everyone !~

The "enable" stall option is unchecked. Never changed that parameter since I've been playin'

Will try the stall w/o the engine to see if the buzzer is in the background...

THANKS AGAIN:aok

Phil
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Phil, if it is, turn down the internal engine sound a bit. To do that, go to OPTIONS > PREFERENCES > Game Sounds.

Internal Engines (dont forget the Jet and GV and boat eng!) down to about 40-50% - thats loud enough to still hear them, to know your rpms, but not too loud to tune everything out.

I also set the External Engine sounds to 100%. Makes it easier to *hear* an opponent should you have forgotten to check your six visually. Admittedly late, but it saved my butt a few times.

Another thing i turned down a notch is the "debris" sound... when you kill something and fly through the scrap metal. Same for the Stall Buffet (i think the sound is listed as "buffet"... thats the machine gun sound when you are already stalled out (im using the visual cue = shaking). Both of those gave me heart attacks each time :).





Blagard, McDeath: the stall limiter doesnt "keep you from pulling into stall". It only limits your wings Angle of Attack (AoA) - thats the angle between wing chord and direction of flight.
The maximum possible angle of attack without stalling depends on quite a few factors, plane speed among them. That means.... if you just get slow enough, the limit the Stall limiter imposes is outside the possible range... you can pull into stall.
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2006, 08:18:08 AM »
There is a soundpack with a wookie stall warning....maybe that's what you need.
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