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Offline DaPup

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What should you expect from someone who you help?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2006, 08:28:38 PM »
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I don't think so.  I want to get kills, and I don't want to get killed.  I will help anyone out the best I can.  I fly to have fun.  How about you? :)

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Gunner, I was merely commenting on our 2 answers. There are almost exact opposites, I'm not trying to mock a style of play. The game is what each person makes of it, I would rather die in the fights than cart my butt all the way back to the field...I'm lazy :D  

I will say that alot of the time when someone dives down to "help" me with a zoom pass they make a beeline for the bogey on my 12 and not my 6 :lol

Another good point brought up is to ask first, I don't care about stealing my kill (I should have killed him quicker) but if I know I'm toast I'll say to just leave me alone...unless I don't like you then I'll ask you to come on in. :aok

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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2006, 08:33:09 PM »
dive in kill the bad guys ,, save the princess ... Works for me ..
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Offline Fianna

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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2006, 10:28:19 PM »
Thanks for all the replies!

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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2006, 11:02:31 PM »
I help all other players based on the following criteria....

1) Can I save him.....
2) Is he communicating with me....
3) Do I have some reason not to die....
4) does it look like fun....

Normally all I need it one of four and I'm in.....

There are a few players I will not help because they have a reputation for hanging and picking and do not help others....but that is the exception to the rule. 98% of the time I'll clear anyone's six....

75% of the time I chop,dump & rumble.....after all I fly stupid:aok

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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2006, 11:13:00 PM »
I'll ask first if they want help.  If so I'm in.  If they are getting mugged, I kinda like throwing myself in front of the bullets to try and get the muggee clear, even if I die.

But I'm kinda goofy that way.

I don't expect anything in return.  I'm having fun either way :)
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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2006, 12:09:22 AM »
I'm like masher, once I help you and get left high and dry, I'll never help you again.

But I'll usually ask a guy in a 1 or 2 on 1 if he needs help before cutting in, more than that I usually just hop in and tackle the nearest one to try and break it up.

Even been known to just cut across the turn at 400+ and zoom right back up, sometimes that scares the crap out of them enough to help the friendly do something. :D
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Offline skycaptn

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2006, 12:30:08 AM »
Ill auger a 262 to help a squad mate...

Depending upon who's needing saving ill do almost anything for a fellow rook..
I wouldnt pee on some of them if they where on fire though.

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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2006, 05:00:48 AM »
Communication seems to be the key here.  I ask before I dive in (realize that the friendly may have his hands full and not be able to reply) and take into consideration the situation and decide.

Sometimes, just making a high speed pass will be enough to give the friendly a chance to make a break for home or obtain a firing solution on the nearest enemy without putting yourself in a bad position.  

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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2006, 05:37:57 AM »
It would be nice if they stuck around damage / ammo dictating but this is Aces High so I DON'T expect anything.  

If I'm in watermelon street after helping a guy in a 3 v 1 then more fool me:rolleyes:

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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2006, 06:07:02 AM »
I know I usually will let my help know if I have to bug out and why so he doesn't think I just left him high and dry for no reason. "I'm out, ammo/damage/fuel/scared sill", whatever. At least he knows hes on his own, isn't expecting me to give assistance that I can't give.

Not like I'm much halp anyway... :rolleyes:
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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2006, 07:56:43 AM »
What Zaz said--- if I see some 4342355 guy down there in a 1 on 12, I might do a 500 jug mph swoop thru the mess to help him out, but not if it gonna get me kilt...if it Shawk, Killnu or someone whom I KNOW wouldnt have done something stupid like that on purpose, I'll dive into the fight and stay (unless they holler go save urself, I'm not a kamikazee after all;) )
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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2006, 09:38:07 AM »
there are two types of pilot that i dive into a fight alongside.


Friends - want to help them and get them home safe even if i die.


Bait - well, sorry. lol
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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2006, 09:51:25 AM »
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there are two types of pilot that i dive into a fight alongside.


Friends - want to help them and get them home safe even if i die.


Bait - well, sorry. lol


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« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2006, 10:51:24 AM »
"When you see a countryman in trouble, and you try to help him, is there anything expected from him?"

As some of the other people have pointed out, you're foisting a moral burden on the other player that he did not ask for. He might not even realise that you are trying to help him, as he will have his hands full in the fight. He might be spitting blood that someone did not help him earlier. Or he might be an ultra-humanite who has the enemy right where he wants them.

There have been times where I have been hard-pressed, cursing that no-one is coming to help me, but I always try to bear in mind that perhaps someone *is* trying to help me, or perhaps I am beyond help, or the other players are occupied, and in any case why should they help me in particular? Other people might be in danger. Emergency service workers are trained so that, when confronted with a dangerous situation, they should not become casualties themselves in their eagerness to help.

There is something to be said for diving at the enemy in the hope of putting them off, although eventually the surprise factor will wear off, and some players might not even notice that they are being buzzed. My greatest fear nowadays is the new Spitfire 16 player on my tail, because he is unlikely to check behind him for a counter-pursuing enemy and he will probably out-turn me and spray me down. My other greatest fear is any Corsair above me.

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« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2006, 12:33:57 PM »
If a fellow countryman asks first I'll say yes or no.  If I say yes I'll stick around to help.  That said, depending on what I'm flying, sometimes I need to get some seperation to effectively re-join and I'll try to let him know that.  If I say no or he doesn't ask there's no guarantees.

If he asks I might tell him I'm trying to get home (low ammo, fuel, damage, etc.) so he knows once I'm cleared I'm bugging out.

Most of the vets are pretty good at communicating in these situations.
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