t6-texan

[JB88]

there are a few t-6's that fly over my house a few times a week and i had this idea that it might be cool to have training planes in the TA for people who are just getting started...the trainer could turn over the controls to the new guy and/or take them away to keep the lesson going before a crash.  might be an interesting way to learn the basics...

either that or a new pilot could jump in a drone plane that went through all of the motions of take off, landing and radio functions while the new person watched and saw how it was all done with automated in instruction.

[Ball]

no.

[Bruv119]

surely the join command can do the same thing.

you could talk them through whatever move your trying to show them.

[JB88]

true, but in this version you would be able to switch controllers so that the trainee could be hands on until the trainer wants to show them something or vice versa.

you don't count ball.  you can barely be paper trained.

[SKBG Seadog]

The Zero as very much like the T-6. Use it for training.

[Stang]

Originally posted by JB88
you don't count ball.  you can barely be paper trained.

[Blagard]

A Texan would be great. I could do a skin as the Harvard !

My father spent some time in these as a Sergeant Pilot in the RAF

He took the back seat with another pilot up front when on a long boring flight somewhere. So he says "you've got it" to the guy up front. Back comes the reply "Nah! - You've got it". My father then taps the front pilot on the shoulder with the detachable joystick and re-affirms "You have got it"!

[Arlo]

Originally posted by JB88
true, but in this version you would be able to switch controllers so that the trainee could be hands on until the trainer wants to show them something or vice versa.

you don't count ball.  you can barely be paper trained.

Practical technicalities aside (join command, etc) ... I like the idea purely from an historical immersive thing. Of course, I'd like it to see it go so far as beginning with the Stearman ... or, better yet ... learning carrier landings in a 30's bipe.

[Ghosth]

This idea does have some great potential as a teaching tool.

That the guy in the back seat can take it up, show the trainee a move, then hand over control and work with him till he gets it.

Also works nicely for anyone who has takeoff & landing problems.

Ultimately would love to see this enabled in both the Stearman, the T6 Texan, and perhaps the Rv8 for advanced ACM.

It would take some work to coad, and the "instructor" would need another switch, and light in cockpit.  But overall I think the idea has merit.

[JB88]

[Denholm]

I must agree with this. I have heard stories of AH1 how someone who joined a GV could drive it while the actual driver mans the guns, so I know there is already a method in place to where the secondary cockpit (The one in the front) could be considered a "gunners position" and all the actual pilot has to do is allow the individual who joined the plane to control the "driver's seat" while the pilot takes over the "gunning position" (secondary cockpit). Yet neither of the two switch positions in the cockpit.

[devil956]

sry about my moronic approach and my flaming of the rv8,btw ur idea jb88 is waay better than i could have ever thought.

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by Denholm
I must agree with this. I have heard stories of AH1 how someone who joined a GV could drive it while the actual driver mans the guns, so I know there is already a method in place to where the secondary cockpit (The one in the front) could be considered a "gunners position" and all the actual pilot has to do is allow the individual who joined the plane to control the "driver's seat" while the pilot takes over the "gunning position" (secondary cockpit). Yet neither of the two switch positions in the cockpit.

The stories were incorrect.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Denholm
I must agree with this. I have heard stories of AH1 how someone who joined a GV could drive it while the actual driver mans the guns, so I know there is already a method in place to where the secondary cockpit (The one in the front) could be considered a "gunners position" and all the actual pilot has to do is allow the individual who joined the plane to control the "driver's seat" while the pilot takes over the "gunning position" (secondary cockpit). Yet neither of the two switch positions in the cockpit.

As it ALWAYS has been since April of 2002.   If anyone joined a GV, THEY were the gunner.   The "joinee" could only drive (not sure about a pintile gun).

[Masherbrum]

I think a Texan would be sweet.