charon..

[lazs2]

Did you ever find the article about the shooting that betty brought up in the general forum?

lazs

[Charon]

Nope. Put in some e-mails to the local PD and haven't heard back either (but then it's hardly a priority for them). May try a quick call to the local county offices next week since I'm off burning unused vacation time. If it DID happen, it would be nice to send the tale into the NRA. If it didn't, then, well, it is the Internet after all.

Charon

[Toad]

Absolutely; if he did all that, he should be recognized in the Armed Citizen beyond a doubt.

If he made up a tall tale, well then....





particularly at all the "ZoMfG!!11!! WTFG!!!" people.  

[lazs2]

If he did it then it would prove the claim that liberal news is biased in a very extreme way against firearms and, especialy, people using them in self defence.

There are hundreds of thousands of interesting stories...maybe millions if the FBI is to be believed, a year of citizens defending themselves yet...  the liberal press avoids these interesting stories alltogether.   They treat drive by shootings of rival gang members like they were some kind of trajic gun accident even.

still...  you would think some kind of story would have surfaced by now?

lazs

[storch]

it certainly would have received some press coverage here but then again the incident supposed occurred in the people's republic of california.

[sluggish]

Remember a few years ago when tourists in Florida were getting mugged leaving the airpot in their rental cars?  Was that happening because of Florida's firearms laws (like the media portrayed it) or was it because the criminals knew that a rental car coming from the airport probably would'nt have an armed person in it?

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by storch
it certainly would have received some press coverage here but then again the incident supposed occurred in the people's republic of california.

If this is the one betty posted, it happened in Texas, near Ft Worth...
and before everybody gets  I sat with the man for 4 days at the last con and I can think of no reason to doubt the story.

[CavemanJ]

Originally posted by sluggish
Remember a few years ago when tourists in Florida were getting mugged leaving the airpot in their rental cars?  Was that happening because of Florida's firearms laws (like the media portrayed it) or was it because the criminals knew that a rental car coming from the airport probably would'nt have an armed person in it?

Because the perps knew that the tourists weren't armed.  They got scared to pick on just anyone when FL passed thier concealed carry law.

[Charon]

The telling of the story just reads "funny." I have served/spoke with people who really went through some crazy stuff in Vietnam and were decorated for it (Silver Star, Bronze Star with V) and the tone was far different in describing the events. People whose experiences were verified at the 201 file, authorized to wear decorations level. And, we come from a community that has experienced:

* Voss
* Striaga and his Mustang
* The girl whose imaginary fiancée suffered imaginary death/wounds in Iraq
* The Community member who was recently stated to be dead or injured (can't remember which) in a hoax
* Mr. Black, et al
* Airhead’s bungee jump
* The regular list of people who are caught padding score with a 2nd account to get "respect"
* The guy who posted here in the O'Club a few years back and was always implying some sort of "black ops" background (never did call him on that one; he just disappeared suddenly)
* Nielsen the Pirate, with only some bad Photoshops and a half scuttled family motorboat to go on
* And several more I seem to recall where someone posted “it was only a joke” after things started to come up short.

It's a sad but generally accurate statement that on the Internet, 9 times out of 10:
1. The extreme macho event never happened;
2. The special forces/ops background never happened;
3. The mad martial arts Skillz are bougus, etc.

Maybe this is the 1 time out of ten that's not the case. If so, then WTFG man! I'll send you a check to buy a bottle of your favorite rot gut in honor ($20 value or less, while supplies last) for dealing with some street scum. But, I'm not going to jump on that bandwagon without something more to go on, especially since the story telling style reads more like fiction than someone who has just killed one man, wounded another and ate five bullets with major surgery ahead. I don’t think I’m the only one who has a few red flags over this, and I’ll be more than happy to apologize if this occurred. Iceman would truly fall into the primo badass category were that to be the case and deserve all the praise, and more.

Charon

[Toad]

Air, like we've ALL said, if he managed to do all that he should be recognized by the NRA. It's an amazing story.

Which makes it just as amazing that it didn't get ANY press, anywhere...particularly 13 miles south of the metroplex.

Just sayin'.

[Charon]

If he did it then it would prove the claim that liberal news is biased in a very extreme way against firearms and, especially, people using them in self defense.

Around here they cover it, though they try to criminalize the behavior of the homeowner in the process.

Actually though, the Tribune, which I had given up all hope on, has been running some pro concealed carry, hunting and general firearm editorials lately. Not from the editorial board of course, but from several staff columnists and articulate readers. Very perplexing...

I'm still waiting for them to cover the facts behind so called "assualt weapons," which are actually used in homicides about as often as baseball bats.

Charon

[Airscrew]

Burleson Police Department
225 W. Renfro, Burleson, Texas 76028-4296
817-447-5300 or (toll free) 1-866-447-5370
Emergency: 911
FAX - 817-447-0332

http://www.burlesontx.com/index.htm

[storch]

Originally posted by sluggish
Remember a few years ago when tourists in Florida were getting mugged leaving the airpot in their rental cars?  Was that happening because of Florida's firearms laws (like the media portrayed it) or was it because the criminals knew that a rental car coming from the airport probably would'nt have an armed person in it?

florida used to asign tags that began with the letter Z to all rental or leased vehicles.  the thugs knew this.  

it backfired on them a few times though.  once an australian couple were targeted in a smash and grab.  the thug smashed the window but the quick thinking aussie grabbed the thug, pulled him halfway into the car and secured him with his arse and legs hanging out of the vehicle while the mrs. sped away from the thug's homies for several blocks.  then mr aussie proceeds to beat him into a black and bloody pulp while mrs. aussie called the police.  no charges were filed against the tourists.

there were other occassions where a seeming rental vehicle turned out to be a vehicle leased to a local who dispensed a few dosed of lethal lead poisoning.

eventually the state changed the Z tags, rental car agencies don't advertise their cars with stickers in this market still.

[Charon]

I already sent the Burleson and Fort Worth PDs E-mails. I was going to make the calls a bit later this week though I may give them a buzz this afternoon. The other resource is the county, whch should have a record of any charges filed. All of this stuff is public domain, though finding access can be an issue.

Charon

[Charon]

The woman I spoke with at the Burleson PD didn't recall any such event, but that is not a 100 percent deal so the next step is to fax in a request for records.

Charon