Took the plunge ..Vette 'R' me :)

[Skuzzy]

Moot, it really depends on what the car is to be used for.  If one of the goals is to get off the line as fast as possible, a supercharger is a better choice than a turbocharger.

The two extremes are the Indy type racer, and the dragster.  Both have engines producing insane amounts of horsepower, but the Indy cars use turbochargers and the dragsters use superchargers.

Simple really.  The Indy car has no need to launch like a rocket.  They need thier power in a specific high RPM band.  The dragster will easily lose a race at the line, if they did not use a supercharger.

Dual stage turbo chargers have been around for a while, but they still cannot provide the punch as fast as a supercharger.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

We have a 2002 Z06 with a charger, borla exaust : 614HP to the ground. Quite scary fast actually.

[moot]

Thanks Skuzzy.

[Grayeagle]

Skuzzy;

Ya.

We both are sayin the same things

I jest use fewer words

-GE (the gale banks motor would require a raised hood on my C5 ..the vortech blower wont .. -evil grin- ..and if I had the kinda money gale wants for his 1khp small block chebby .. I'd rather hook into one of Scott Schafiroffs monster big blocks)

[1K3]

Originally posted by Grayeagle
Welp .. got approved, go pick up my first ever 'Vette today at 11am.

Not bran new, mind.

Nice lil C-5, 1998, black on black coupe.
LS-1 motor, very little wear an tear, a very nice lookin car. Even the tires look good.

Pictures man......... PICTURES!:furious

[Skuzzy]

I hope I did not sound like I was arguing about it GE.  Truth is, I am envious of you.

I lost the *itch* to hot rod some time back.  But it is starting to come back on me. I wish I had a clunker to work on and play with right now.  

A 68 Falcon pulled up into the parking lot the other day, and all I could do is think about all the things I could do to that car.  I love sleepers.

The Wife needs a new car, and I am thinking of giving her my Lexus and either picking up a new Mustang GT500, or a clunker and doing all manner of bad things to that.

Man, when the bug bites,...it really bites.

[SteveBailey]

Congrats Gray Eagle! Time for you to post some pics of your new ride.  I live in Surprise and am a member of Arizona Corvette Enthusiasts.. check it out if ya like.

http://www.arizonacorvetteenthusiasts.net/arizonavette/forums/index.php

A couple of pics of my '86.  modded 383.  Now.. let's see a couple pics of yours, please?

Lowered it after this pic

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Grayeagle
well Skuzzy ..

Superchargers use a belt to drive 'em . the more boost you want, the more hp it's gonna take to make it pushin that belt to compress the air.

They are effective at however much the bottom end can stand. Some Top Fuel engines have turned 15 *thousand* rpm with those huge blowers up top. So far .. no turbo motor has made a dent in top fuel.

The reason I mention top fuel is.. the fastest car wins. Only limitation is 500 cubic inch max motor size .. so if a turbo could do it .. it would.
They cant.

However .. a turbo works very well ..and a twin turbo on a V-8 means ya got one for each bank ..waste gate can keep the boost from poppin head gaskets at the high end, and a turbo can be built to come on at idle and hit the gate at engine redline ..you can even plumb nitrous into 'em so there is no lag  (lag is inherent due to first you punch it, then the turbo spools up causing increase in boost ..whereas supercharger is pumpin more air in at idle to begin with .. and it just gets crazier when ya punch it, bein directly driven off the crankshaft = no lag) Of course .. you gotta do somethin to keep the bearings cool and lubed ..they deal directly with exhaust heat, and they spin purty fast.

Turbo is more efficient, due to no belt. Lot more plumbing required.
Gale Banks makes a nice 1000hp small block chebby ..twin turbo. Callaway useda make some nice turbo kits too ..along with others.

Turbo's are nice, .. but .. I'd rather be blown -evil grin-
No lag, right off idle effective, right to engine redline, low maintenance.

-GE (just somethin about havin 'supercharged' lettered on the rear facia

Turbocharging is illegal in the Fuel and Alcohol classes. It has been done, and can be done, but the power is nearly unmanageable. I've been hanging with Scott Palmer, who runs a Top Fuel car, a company I do work for sponsors him, along with his main sponsor Grande Crown Resorts and Travel. A lot of fun, and a learning experience.

Most all of the LSX series stuff we do is crankdriven centrifugal, and the cool thing about it is the near instant response, if your tune-up is right. The turbocharger setups are most often way more expensive and complex, and harder to tune. The crankdriven stuff is bolt on and easy to deal with.

[DiabloTX]

It is an impressive looking mill.

[G0ALY]

We drove a Vette back in the early 80’s. It was one of the best Chevy’s we ever had.

[Grayeagle]

*nice* C4!!

Wife and I went down to C'nV vette's to get a nice '87 C-4 red coupe they had there for 11.5k .. but .. there was *no* way I could get *into* it ..the frame rail by the door sill, front and rear of door openings, and roof rail are all just not big enough for me to fold up into.

Wife asked Jack Haley (sales guy) if there was a newer one for not a lot more ..and we went over to look at the gorgeous '98 black bullet we ended up buyin. I was *very* surprised when we started crunchin numbers .. even the insurance for full coverage only came to $20 a month more than our Durango. Payments are $250/mo .. beatsa crap outta most new cars I can think if ...heck that's cheaper than we could have gotten a Honda Accord for ..and a *lot* more fun to drive

Truly .. if you want pix .. there are a lot of C-5's for sale at C'nV ..
(I have no idea where my camera is (Canon T-70), been packed for 10+ years now.. I should get a digital

http://www.cnv-corvettes.com/

..they have some nice cars there for sure ..and that payment calculator on their car pages turned out +/- a dollar to what the payments actually came out as.

We made a run up I-17, hung a left to Prescott ..then hiway 89 to Wickenburg thru the twisties .. oh man. What a slot car! I don't think I wanna know what it takes to corner this Vette hard. By the end of 'em I was runnin 35-40mph thru 'em with no squeals, no complaints from the car at all .. some yahoo in a trundle car began behind us . . started fishtailin a little and slowed way down .. we lost him about the half way point entirely.

(these are 20mph an slower hairpins, switchbacks, right-lefts mostly descending ..for about 20 miles or so .. lots of fun and no traffic, was near sunset when we began, and dark when we bottomed out of 'em.)

I can't beleive I own it when I walk out to it

-GE (I'll drop by the forums for that vette club .. lookin to join one for cruisin an such for the comin year