Saitek X45 X52 rotaries

[Max]

I'm curious as to how best use the rotaries on my X52. How are yours assigned and how did you set the command?

Thanks

[Gypsy Baron]

Originally posted by Max
I'm curious as to how best use the rotaries on my X52. How are yours assigned and how did you set the command?

Thanks

 I took the easy approach...made them "bands".
 
 0-40%  Trim UP, Trim left (Rotary 1, 2)
40-60% nothing
60-100% Trim Down, Trim Right   (Rotary 1, 2)

Just used the keys assigned to those functions.
Works OK for me on my X45.

    =GB=

[Krusty]

Doesn't AH allow you to map trim directly to it, so that you move the rotary, and the trim indicator matches it in the cockpit?

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Krusty
Doesn't AH allow you to map trim directly to it, so that you move the rotary, and the trim indicator matches it in the cockpit?

Does on my X-52.

I use saitek software for button programs and assign rotaries as axis.



Bronk

[moneyguy]

got mine set up for trim  (X52)

[Mace2004]

Mine were pretty simple to setup.  I use the Saitek SST software and default for the rotaries is "axis".  Assign them in AH to analog inputs such as "analog input rudder trim".  I use the two rotaries for roll and yaw trim and the precision slider for pitch.  Works fine except there is a delay in the trim reaching the desired setting.  Say you have full up trim on the slider and you want it centered so you move the slider to the center position.  The trim actually takes some time as it the trim tabs move so you won't get to the center position for a few seconds.

[Keiler]

Same. Using the upper rotary on throttle for roll-trim, small rot for yaw-trim, and slider for pitch-trim.
I marked the neutral position with dots of permanent marker.

Matt

[llama]

So, what happens if/when you use any of the "Autotrim" commands?

Doesn't the rotary then get "out of sync" with the actual trim?

I just got a Thrustmaster throttle with rotaries, and Trim seems the obvious task for them, but I use the autotrims all the time too, and syncing the knobs with the actual trim seems problematic when autotrim is used.

Thoughts?

-Llama

[Keiler]

AFAIK autotrim overrides your settings until you turn them off again.

Matt

[Easyscor]

Both x45 and x52:

I'm using the AH mapping, no SST software as it's not needed for AH2.

I have one rotary set up for elevator trim and the other one set for aileron trim.  Auto trim over-rides them, and then they return to the rotary positions when you go manual again. It's really sweet.

[llama]

Originally posted by Keiler
AFAIK autotrim overrides your settings until you turn them off again.

Matt

Of course they do. But that's not what I'm talking about.

Suppose you roll your knob (heh, that sounds funny) "full up" so you are at maximum vertical trim.

Now you hit autotrim. Then you turn it off again. So far, so good.

Now you want to roll the knob up again. But wait! The knob it already at full "up." There's no more Up to go.

Now what?

Or does this not really happen that much / at all?

-Llama

[Krusty]

Think of it this way. There's a finite range of motion on the knob. It has stops at both ends. It's like a throttle, 0% to 100%. When using it for trim, the "up" and "down" are like a throttle as well. When you put auto trim on it handles it for you. When you turn it off, the trim doesn't just stay where you were under auto, it re-sets it to where the knob indicates.

So if your trim knob is 100% (I'm guessing "full up") and you hit auto, then turn auto off, it will (as fast as the trim can move) go back to "full up".

[Mace2004]

Krusty hits it exactly right.  One of the best uses is to put the manual trim full up and if you get into compression or start to blackout with your nose real low just pop auto-trim off and your airplane will pull itself out of the dive.  Works especially well for 109, 38, and Nikki.  Also, useful if you get into a serious turn fight and normally use auto-trim.

[Max]

Originally posted by Mace2004
Krusty hits it exactly right.  One of the best uses is to put the manual trim full up and if you get into compression or start to blackout with your nose real low just pop auto-trim off and your airplane will pull itself out of the dive.  Works especially well for 109, 38, and Nikki.  Also, useful if you get into a serious turn fight and normally use auto-trim.

Good call Mace.

[llama]

All,

Ah, I see the problem here. Unless you have the digital upgrade chips for old Thrustmaster Gear, the knobs on the TQS throttle don't map to analog axes like the Saitek's apparently do.

The knobs just send keyboard keypresses, which seems pretty similar to what I have now: a coolie hat used for trim that sends keyboard keypresses.

I didn't even know you could map additioal axes to trim, which is pretty cool.

Thanks All,

Llama