Author Topic: P-47n Eny? (Read 1608 times)

Stoney74 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 25, 2006, 12:19:22 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Widewing
...It has a greater range than the P-51D. Above 25k, it's also the best climber.

In your opinion, does that justify a 5 ENY for the Jug N while the Pony D sits at 8? These are probably the two least important characteristics (long range and high altitude performance) in the Main Arena. In real life, on the other hand, probably the most important.

Flyboy · « **Reply #31 on:** December 25, 2006, 03:32:17 AM »

but why it runs only 5mins on the N vs. unlimited (untill overheat) on the D as bozon said?

Stoney74 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 25, 2006, 07:05:37 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Flyboy
but why it runs only 5mins on the N vs. unlimited (untill overheat) on the D as bozon said?

It still runs to the red line on the "N". In real life, the water injection tank carried anywhere from 12-15 mins worth of water.

bj229r · « **Reply #33 on:** December 25, 2006, 08:42:00 AM »

N DOES have relatively long wep, but even on wep, the most common 4 or 5 late war track stars run it down under 10k, where 99% the action is

bozon · « **Reply #34 on:** December 25, 2006, 10:17:43 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by bj229r
N DOES have relatively long wep

It has the exact same 5 minutes all american fighters have in game.

The R2800-77 engine on the N was very similar to the earlier models. The major difference is that they officially allowed a higher boost level. It didn't offer more HP at mil power though. The 56th FG had over boosted their D jugs to near these levels. Johnson claims that his D-5 was over boosted to 72" which is similar to what AH N model does on WEP - only on a much lighter and less draggy razorback... that would be close to an M model performance, only flying at early 44

gripen · « **Reply #35 on:** December 25, 2006, 10:26:00 AM »

The P-47N (as well as the P-47M) had a C-series R-2800 which was completely redesigned engine, IIRC the interchangeable part with B-series was starter hub.

gripen

bj229r · « **Reply #36 on:** December 28, 2006, 05:00:10 AM »

This is a partial copy Of Lusche's anti-La7 post in another forum--the 'stats' page doesnt work on ANY computer in my house, so I cant dig this stuff up like up like I used to---N obviously isn't flown much---wish I could see it's k/d

Plane Kills Deaths K/D "Usage"
P-51D 30383 28498 1.07 58881
Spitfire Mk XVI 28123 25946 1.08 54069
N1K2 30475 23318 1.31 53793
La-7 26047 21259 1.23 47306
P-38L 11868 16237 0.73 28105
F6F-5 12478 14285 0.87 26763
Typhoon IB 15990 10255 1.56 26245
Hurricane Mk IIC 15625 9200 1.70 24825
SeaFire 11546 13256 0.87 24802
Bf 110G-2 11038 13735 0.80 24773
Spitfire Mk VIII 9368 11199 0.84 20567
Spitfire Mk IX 10519 9454 1.11 19973

Lusche · « **Reply #37 on:** December 28, 2006, 07:58:45 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by bj229r
This is a partial copy Of Lusche's anti-La7 post in another forum--the 'stats' page doesnt work on ANY computer in my house, so I cant dig this stuff up like up like I used to---N obviously isn't flown much---wish I could see it's k/d

Here ya go:

P-47 D40 4888 Kills, 5360 Deaths, K/D 0.91
P-47 N 4148 Kills, 4267 Deaths, K/D 0.97

(But keep in mind that the D-40 is flown in MW too, so that the N model most probably gets more usage in LW than the D40 - I really would like to see separate plane stats for each arena)

IMHO, the K/D of both Jug and Lightning (which fulfills a similar role in AH2) suffers from the fact that they are rarely used as a true fighter, but most of the time for ground attacks. Many of them are teared apart by AA fire, a fate certainly less common to Spitfires, Lalas or similar planes.

(BTW, my post you quoted from was by no means "anti" La7. I´m defending that little gem wherever I can)

bozon · « **Reply #38 on:** December 28, 2006, 09:37:05 AM »

Only the D11 is enabled in MW. The D40 stats are purely LW.

Lusche · « **Reply #39 on:** December 28, 2006, 09:56:54 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by bozon
Only the D11 is enabled in MW. The D40 stats are purely LW.

You are right. I let my memory fool me. My bad.

Krusty · « **Reply #40 on:** December 28, 2006, 12:01:38 PM »

90% of the jugs I see in the arena that actually "fight" (coming in with 5k+ over the highest enemy, never daring to do anything unless the target is occupied or pretending to be an easy cherry) are N-jugs. I've seen relatively few Ds lately. I'd guess most of those kills in the Ds are kills earned after ord has been dropped. As for pure fighters I've seen predominantly N models. Funny, that. (*shrug*)

Stoney74 · « **Reply #41 on:** December 28, 2006, 07:48:02 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by bozon
Only the D11 is enabled in MW. The D40 stats are purely LW.

Would GV kills enter into these numbers? Since most casual P-47 drivers are using them in dump truck mode, it could be that some of those kills are GV's?

Stoney74 · « **Reply #42 on:** December 28, 2006, 07:50:24 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Krusty
90% of the jugs I see in the arena that actually "fight" (coming in with 5k+ over the highest enemy, never daring to do anything unless the target is occupied or pretending to be an easy cherry) are N-jugs. I've seen relatively few Ds lately. I'd guess most of those kills in the Ds are kills earned after ord has been dropped. As for pure fighters I've seen predominantly N models. Funny, that. (*shrug*)

Ok, I'll bite on this one, but I'm going to start a new thread to do it. See ya there Krusty!

Lusche · « **Reply #43 on:** December 28, 2006, 07:54:25 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Stoney74
Would GV kills enter into these numbers? Since most casual P-47 drivers are using them in dump truck mode, it could be that some of those kills are GV's?

There is definitely a huge number of GV kills included. But also a lot of deaths by M16, Ostwinds, manned ack and of course panzer proxies