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Offline Gunthr

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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2006, 06:09:36 PM »
Silat, boy i wish i could feel so smart, and so liberal.  What's a guy gotta do?  Give up his beliefs to make you happy?  What else could be the point of your post?
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« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2006, 06:26:04 PM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
yep.. I am no bible student by any means but I am sure that most sins are not sins unless you really do them.    To say "I want to steal that car" is not a sin for instance.    If you dwell on it and really want to do it in your heart and are not stopped by the fact that it is simply a sin... then it is a sin even if you don't steal it.


Well, I am not going to tell you what to believe, but I will tell you that Jesus said as written in the book of Matthew, “You have heard that it was said to those of old,  ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’  But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment.

You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Furthermore it has been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery."
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« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2006, 06:41:22 PM »
Benny, i dont think Silat cares what you believe, except that you believe in God.  His hobby seems to be pointing out inconsistincies in whatever YOU believe.  I hope he finds another hobby.

Passive criticism is worthless.  Tell us, Silat, what you do YOU believe in?

Cheers,

Gunthr
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« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2006, 06:46:59 PM »
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Originally posted by Gunthr
Benny, i dont think Silat cares what you believe, except that you believe in God.  His hobby seems to be pointing out inconsistincies in whatever YOU believe.  I hope he finds another hobby.

Passive criticism is worthless.  Tell us, Silat, what you do YOU believe in?

Cheers,

Gunthr


I imagine as a flaming red portland liberal, he believes in tolerance, open mindedness and accepting of others lifestyle and or choice of beliefs. He is more then likely against forcing his ideas on someone or any other type of fascist activity,or ridiculing the same ideas and beliefs
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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2006, 06:51:13 PM »
I wasn't talking to Silat, and I'm not under the impression that anyone cares what I believe.  Someone said something like "The Bible doesn't say this!"  So I pointed out the contradiction.

Pooh, people who make claims to tolerance and open-mindedness are generally just as intolerant and close-minded as everyone else.  They're just prejudiced about different things.  In essense, they just add hypocrisy.
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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2006, 07:01:01 PM »
They say there are no atheists in foxholes but aren't agnostics just atheists with no balls?

So unless you're born-again none of this counts right?  If you never "accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior" you could theoretically deny his existance until your deathbed, wait till the last minute, "see the light," and be welcomed into his arms...

However, if you acknowledge his existence and his place as god or the son of god or whatever, then denounce him, you shall forever and always be damned to the eternal fires of hell.

Kind of makes me want to not get my kids baptized...
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2006, 07:03:33 PM »
Thanks, Pooh21, for your input.  I was hoping that the respondant could answer for himself.  Merry Christmas!
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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2006, 07:05:14 PM »
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OMG... another foot soldier in the war on christmas!


Actually hes right. It is a Pagan Holiday whos origans date back to the Romans.

Christains adapted and adopted it as their own declaring Dec 25 to be the date of Christs birth.

Thing is nobody actually knows exactly when Christ was born.
Some beleive the actual time period of his birth was in mid Autum Others in Spring

Actually most of the things we normally associate with Christian Christmas
Or a celibration and recognition thereof arent part of Christianity at all.

The Christmas tree
the Yule Log
The Lights
Mistletoe

All of these things have their origans someplace else and were only later incorperated and adopted (one could argue stolen) into Christain celibration.

Actually the traditional Irish Shamrock on St Patricks Day  probably has much more to do with being purely christain then any of the things listed above
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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2006, 07:10:29 PM »
Merry Christmas Gunthr!
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« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2006, 07:11:19 PM »
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I have to agree tho that those who constantly attack religion are just as annoying as those who preach it at you against your wishes.   Maybe a little more so since their motives are so void of anything resembling human empathy.

lazs


Not bad
Not bad at all

I'll drink to that
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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2006, 07:13:02 PM »
Chritsmas seems to be exiting on many levels...  I'm leaving to go hunting, and I'd like to give my best wishes to all the thinkers, to all the lovers, to all the fighters and to all those who live their lives to its greatest possible extent.  

Gunthr
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« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2006, 07:15:16 PM »
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So unless you're born-again none of this counts right?  If you never "accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior" you could theoretically deny his existance until your deathbed, wait till the last minute, "see the light," and be welcomed into his arms...

However, if you acknowledge his existence and his place as god or the son of god or whatever, then denounce him, you shall forever and always be damned to the eternal fires of hell.


I don't see how you came to that conclusion from, "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin."
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« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2006, 07:51:12 PM »
Many of you should probably not read Revelations.  I dont think you could handle it.


If you understood it,


which you cannot


and I do not


so,

go ahead and read it anyway.


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« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2006, 07:53:54 PM »
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so all you that do not believe are not celebrating Christmas right?
I'm sure you don't want to be considered a hypocrite .....



I still accept gifts ..
And correct. I dont celebrate Xmas.
But Im invited to others Xmas functions and might go as a guest. I love pagan holidays that have food and merryment:)
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« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2006, 07:54:55 PM »
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Silat, boy i wish i could feel so smart, and so liberal.  What's a guy gotta do?  Give up his beliefs to make you happy?  What else could be the point of your post?


 Its a link. Go to it. Dont go to it. Did I ask you to give up anything. You religious types sure are thin skinned:)
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