Author Topic: Sorry If I didn't Check 6 (or should I be?) (Read 2289 times)

roach · « **on:** December 25, 2006, 01:11:56 PM »

The sarcastic "thanks guys for the check 6" from a pilot dropping from the sky with wings absent scenario has occurred, as of late, somewhat frequently and leaves one to ponder a bit on the issue in some depth; when is it appropriate to check 6, or expect a check 6 warning from ones countrymen.

My belief is that most players are courteous and will cheerfully provide a helpful "check 6" warning to a fellow countrymen when noticing that individual is being pursued by an enemy, and especially when it appears he is not aware of the enemy behind.

However, in the classic fur ball, there may be so much chaos and compared to different players varying degrees of situational awareness, if you didn't get a check 6 warning, it might be because no one noticed you needed one. Personally, my own SA is enough to primarily make me aware of dangers around me, and if there is any "extra" SA to spare, I will try to be aware of dangers for others as well.

Furthermore, the 'check 6' isn't always a welcome thing. For example, when engaged with one opponent for a somewhat prolonged duration, an unwelcome 'check 6' may be considered negative if there is, in fact, no additional enemies joining the fight. Without regards to which end of the clock the countrymen is on, he may be distracted by an untimely 'check 6' forcing him to wonder if there is an additional enemy that he has not detected. If you note that your countrymen is obviously taking evasive action, or has been engaged with the enemy for a prolonged duration already, he is likely already aware of that single enemy on his six.

If your fellow countrymen is in pursuit of an enemy ahead of you, and there are no enemies perusing him, then it is also considered in bad form to 'check 6'. After all, he has the dominate position on the clock and might consider your 'check 6' an intentional means to distract him while he looks for an invisible enemy and you move in on his potential kill.

If your fellow countrymen has an enemy behind him over two miles away, and that enemy has obviously not selected a specific target or engaged your fellow countrymen yet, then this too might also be an inappropriate time to 'check 6.'

There can be too much 'check 6', and not enough 'check 6', so it is best to use this helpful aid in moderation where appropriate at your best judgment.

When do you want a 'check 6' warning, and when do you consider it unwelcome?

Do any of you think that the 'check 6' warning is misused, and with intent?

Do some players expect a 'check 6' in somewhat chaotic fur ball situations where others may be simply too consumed with their own imminent danger?

stickpig · « **Reply #1 on:** December 25, 2006, 01:32:18 PM »

The ones that really make you raise an eye are when theres 5 friendlies within 1K and your locking onto a con and another con shows up to help his friend and your 5 countymen who happen to be chasing behind you, say nothing nor hit the "ck 6" key when the second con drops in behind you.

Those deserve a "wtf"

Murdr · « **Reply #2 on:** December 25, 2006, 01:50:55 PM »

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Originally posted by stickpig
The ones that really make you raise an eye are when theres 5 friendlies within 1K and your locking onto a con and another con shows up to help his friend and your 5 countymen who happen to be chasing behind you, say nothing nor hit the "ck 6" key when the second con drops in behind you.

Those deserve a "wtf"

yep, thats the one

a4944 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 25, 2006, 02:34:56 PM »

I don't mind getting false check 6 calls which about half are. People are trying to help which is a good thing. I don't hear many complaints about false calls. I do hear the ones about not getting the call. I think better to err on the safe side and give the call. I consider check 6 calls a courtesy, I never expect them, but I do appreciate them. I don't think it's helpful to bash your country for not getting them, you could request rather than bash and have the same effect. I think most people will help if they can or know how to.

Venom

Apeking · « **Reply #4 on:** December 25, 2006, 02:41:37 PM »

I have the "check 6" sound volume turned down, and I generally don't look at the text scroll when I am in a dogfight. My philosophy is that if I am unaware of a baddy behind me I deserve everything I get, and the same applies to the other players. As a consequence of this I often miss important information and end up trying to land at a base that was friendly a few minutes ago, but has subsequently been captured and is now bristling with ack. I don't dislike someone for sending out a check 6 - it's a nice thought - but in general I believe that the time spent fiddling with the keyboard, generating a check 6, would be better spent fighting.

I make a distinction between the "check 6" key command and giving advice over the short range radio channel, in which case I have nothing against a steady stream of running commentary. I find that the radio chatter adds to the sense of being in a battle, and it's always nice when someone points out a high 190 diving into the fray, better still when they say that there's a high 190 approaching from the north about 5k up. The more detail the better.

That is another reason I dislike the "check 6" call; there isn't enough detail. I want to know everything about the attacking enemy - I want to know his name, his date of birth, the consistency of his stool, whether he is a leg man or a bosom man, whether he has ever bought stockings and pantyhose for his own personal use, and more importantly whether he likes Marmite or hates it. All of these things. I want to know. And a "check 6" call won't tell me.

All this talk of pantyhose has awakened a beast within me. I will return to this forum later on.

doc1kelley · « **Reply #5 on:** December 25, 2006, 02:48:55 PM »

I don't use the standard check 6 key, I use either range channel or if it's squaddies, the squad channel on vox. Many times my viewpoint is not the same as theirs as they look like the bogey is on them and they are in fact chasing the bogey. No matter, I still call em out when I can but only on vox on either range or squad channel. I have always appeciated the call whether they be false or real.

All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1

lambo31 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 25, 2006, 03:33:33 PM »

I give check 6's feely providing I see the con, and if I can cycle thru the 5 friendlies to the one that needs it befor he's shot down. I don't expect check 6's but they are appreciated when I do get them, even the false one's. However, when a friendly whines about not recieving one because he expects them, well, he can forget ever getting one from me in the future.

~~Lambo~~

Warspawn · « **Reply #7 on:** December 25, 2006, 04:52:22 PM »

I love giving and getting Check 6's, and will never say anything about one that's given and not needed.

I will however wonder about motives at times when they're not handed out when there's no apparent reason for not hitting you ' key or what's mapped on your stick...

Had this conversation with one person over ranged:

"Holy shoot bro, why no check 6? You had to see the guy drop in on me!"

His reply?

"Doing that might have made you move and ruined my shot when he chased you."

Those get me riled up a bit, heh!

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #8 on:** December 25, 2006, 05:59:23 PM »

being a player who is frequently without a microphone, i often have to use the check6 function as simply a warning.

taking off behind my squaddy i will check6 to get them to see me.

any form of danger and i throw a check6 just to get thier attention, not always just when the con is dead on thier 6.

often i send a chk6 to squaddy and he with a mic say 'you mean the spitty, or the high p38?' , at which point i cant reply or type fast enough so i just send them another 3 chk6s to make sure they got the message.

sometimes i give a check 6 by mistake to a player 6k away when i was lookin at a guy 1k away. often if i fly near a tank fight i will unwittingly give ck6s to Gvs that i cant see the icons of whilst trying to target a fellow plane.

its not always just a usefull attention grabber or a prank to steal your kill if i give a false ck6, and im sorry for those ones.

mrshiver · « **Reply #9 on:** December 25, 2006, 06:56:38 PM »

If the situation warrants, ie: a con diving on a friendly, or climbing up to one already engaged, I'll give a check 6. I always try to check the distances in the icons before I throw one out. If it's obvious the friendly is on the con's 6 I don't bother.

I don't expect a 6 call, but do appreciate them even if they are in error, it at least shows that someone out there cares.

What I can't stand is the whiner who cries that no one gave him a check 6. Sorry, but this is our virtual "real world" and you're responsible for your own SA.

If I'm saddling up on someone I'm still checking my 6, even though sometimes the ole taerget fixation creeps in, and for that I'm the only one to blame.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #10 on:** December 25, 2006, 07:33:32 PM »

Who cares if you give or anyone else for that matters a check 6? The other guy should learn how to take care of his own SA by using that Mark I Eyeball better.

ack-ack

dhaus · « **Reply #11 on:** December 25, 2006, 10:12:10 PM »

I never expect a check six, but do like getting them, even if mistaken. I do NOT appreciate getting one when I'm on a red guy's six and the check call comes from the guy behind me trying to get me out of the line.

Reynolds · « **Reply #12 on:** December 25, 2006, 11:51:39 PM »

If you are behind the guy chasing me trying to sneak up on him, without telling me he is doing the same to me, I WILL chew your ear off. If you can plainly see an enemy behind someone, WARN THEM!!! I get killed giving people a check six!!! Do I get upset when I do? No. Do I keep giving check sixes to everyone? Yes.

Grits · « **Reply #13 on:** December 26, 2006, 12:00:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Who cares if you give or anyone else for that matters a check 6? The other guy should learn how to take care of his own SA by using that Mark I Eyeball better.

ack-ack

What he said.

SteveBailey · « **Reply #14 on:** December 26, 2006, 12:53:51 AM »

I give check 6's on range. I am happy to receive check 6's but I absolutely do not expect them nor do I fault those around me if I get shot by a guy I somehow didn't see and I did not receive a check 6.

I am the person, the only person, who is responsible for me staying alive.

People that get shot down then whine about not getting check 6 are just displaying misplaced anger. They should be mad at themselves(if they feel the need to get mad) and no one else. Then they should proceed on working to improve their SA if they actually rely on check 6's.