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Offline Spikes

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« on: December 31, 2006, 12:05:48 PM »
The B-29 is a myth, might happen, might not.
But we do need a B25. any kind of model.
It was a good aircraft.


Yak 3
Yak 5
Yak 7
B-25
B-29 (We all hoping)
Someday=F-86 (to fight 262)
Or some type of american jet fighter
P-61
Many more
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2006, 12:10:42 PM »
1) Please do search 2) Please don't say B-29, people start smacking 3) F-86 didn't fight in WW2 for the last time, only American jet of WW2 was the P-59 which sucked and didn't fight in the war 4) Are only chance for an allied jet is the Gloster Meteor and 5) Yes to the Yak 3 and P-61.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2006, 01:54:27 PM »
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1) Please do search 2) Please don't say B-29, people start smacking 3) F-86 didn't fight in WW2 for the last time, only American jet of WW2 was the P-59 which sucked and didn't fight in the war 4) Are only chance for an allied jet is the Gloster Meteor and 5) Yes to the Yak 3 and P-61.



Ok, thanks
Ill do some research
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2006, 04:34:03 PM »
No problem, but yes we do need the P-61 and yak 3 someday.
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2007, 02:36:26 AM »
P61 ive always wanted to fly 1 in a sim but never have i want to really bad they need it. yak3 yes russians need more planes and tanks. metor yes yes yes jsut cause allied needs jet!!! b25 i wish. I got an idea how to work out the carrier take offs. but you forgot the mossie it was origanally a bomber if im not mistaken. they need it bad!!!!!

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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 01:02:28 AM »
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Ok, thanks
Ill do some research


ya then U'll find P-80 flying in europe befoire VE day:noid :noid :noid :noid :aok :cool: :cool:

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2007, 12:26:57 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2007, 03:14:21 PM »
i do agree i think the B-25 was one of the great workhorses of WWII. They could be taken off carriers witch is one of the reasons it was so great.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 04:24:25 PM »
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Originally posted by spikes
The B-29 is a myth, might happen, might not.
But we do need a B25. any kind of model.
It was a good aircraft.


Yak 3
Yak 5
Yak 7
B-25
B-29 (We all hoping)
Someday=F-86 (to fight 262)
Or some type of american jet fighter
P-61
Many more


:O he said B29


F-86 was a korean war fighter not WWII

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2007, 11:14:24 PM »
didn't the japenese have a jet fighter and jet bomber? i know they never saw combat, but they were already built when Japan surrendered.

Oh and that German flying wing plane, i forget the name but i think it was a jet powered bomber.
by the way, why not add the B-2 while we are at it! two is a low number, so it must have been an early model!:rofl

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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2007, 12:18:27 AM »
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i do agree i think the B-25 was one of the great workhorses of WWII. They could be taken off carriers witch is one of the reasons it was so great.


As much as I want the 25 in AH (more than any other model to be truthful) it was only ever launched off a carrier for the doolittle raid...

That was the B-25B and it is a poor performer when you compare it to most of the AH Stable....

Never the less I would love to have the B-25B in AH to recreate the doolittle raid (and hell yeah I would launch of CV's when ever I could)

B-25B Specs The type used for the doolittle raid
B25 Specifications
Span: 67 feet 7 inches
Wing Area: 610 Sq. Ft.
Length: 52 feet 11 inches
Height: 15 feet 9 inches
Max. Speed: 300 mph @ 15,000 feet
Normal Bomb Load: 2,400 lbs.
Normal Range: 2,000 miles
Crew: 5
Empty Weight: 20,000 lbs.
Gross Weight: 26,208 lbs. (28,460 max. gross)
Power Plant: 2 1,700 hp 14 cylinder Wright cyclone R-2600-9 engines 1,350 hp @ 13,000 feet

Normal Bomb Load: 2,400 lbs. <-- TAKE NOTE OF THE LOW BOMB LOAD THIS IS LESS THAN A P51D (under normal AH Jabo standards)

They had to make other modifications to make the mission possable.

As an side note (If I recall correctly) No one performed an actual carrier launch untill the morning of the raid....


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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2007, 01:44:44 AM »
i remember in 0:30/tokyo they did a lot of field practice (& i read Gen. Doolittle's book last fall, so i should remember if the movie is accurate or not, but I dont:furious), so you'd guess that it should be a cinch with the added headwind, @least that what i'd guess if some1 else was launching.  if was me, maybe i'd study the issue a bit more.  probably thats why they chose Doolittle to lead. They guy was a spectacular pilot & the Doolittle raid is only one of a tremendous number of accomplishments.  
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2007, 02:39:41 PM »
Yes there were two B-25's launched off of the hornet as she steamed out of port in Virginia after sea trials. They both got off with much deck to spare though they were light with no bomb loads.


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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2007, 04:17:05 AM »
No I read doolittles report

IF I RECALL CORRECTLY

There were 16 B-25s on the CV, 1 was supposed to launch as a test but they kept it on board and it launched with the rest of them

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2007, 04:19:04 AM »
Heres an old post of mine on the subject

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Doolittle and his Raiders are inspirational, They knew the mission was a one way trip and when the Wasp was spotted they launched even though they were 10 hours away from the where they were supposed to.

I think it takes a lot of guts to do what they did.

At one stage I was trying to get all the information I could on the Doolittle Raider's, I was going to put a snap shot together. As I kept reading it turned into a bit of an obsession and I ended up with a couple of manila folders worth of printouts including things like Flight Plans and mission reports.

I am amazed by the inaccuracies that have been portrayed in the movies I have seen about the raid, (Yeah I know its Holiwood but you would think that they would have atleast been accurate about something like the Doolittle Raid).

James H. Doolittle - Individual Report on Tokyo Raid


James H. Doolittle - Flight/Mission Report
Chunking, China
May 4, 1942.

PERSONAL REPORT

Take off at 8:20 A.M. ship time.
Take-off was easy. Night take-off would have been possible and practicable.

Circled carrier to get exact heading and check compass. Wind was from around 300°.

About a half hour after take-off was joined by AC 40-2292, Lt. Hoover, pilot, the second plane to take off.

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Encountered nine fighters in three flights of three. This was about ten miles north of the outskirts of Tokyo proper.

All this time had been flying as low as the terrain would permit.

Continued low flying due south over the outskirts of and toward the east center of Tokyo.

Pulled up to 1,200 ft., changed course to the southwest and incendiary-bombed highly inflammable section. Dropped first bomb at 1:30 (ship time).

Anti-aircraft very active but only one near hit.

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Airplane No. AC 40-2282 -- Took off at 8:33 a.m. ship time
Pilot Lt. Everett W. Holstrom 0-397395
Co-pilot Lt. Lucian N. Youngblood 0-421153
Navigator-Gunner Lt. Harry C. McCool o-419329
Bombardier Sgt. Robert J. Stephens 6936650
Engineer-Gunner Cpl. Bert M. Jordan 6952993

Proceeded in the direction of Tokyo but encountered severe fighter opposition. Endeavored to get around the fighters and passed beyond Tokyo. They then decided to bomb a secondary target but were again attacked and driven off. Eventually dropped their bombs in the water and proceeded to a point near and Southeast of Shangjao where all crew members bailed out safely.
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