Author Topic: reversals? Break turn help?aiming (Read 1354 times)

Dichotomy · « **Reply #15 on:** December 31, 2006, 02:33:58 PM »

Thanks Murdr... by the way I've been watching those films... haven't been able to pull off the move the way I want to yet but still working on it

Schatzi · « **Reply #16 on:** December 31, 2006, 04:48:30 PM »

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dumb question but how do I turn the icons off and do unlimited fuel? 90% of my flying these days is offline when I can grab 5 minutes or so and that sounds like a great way to practice

ALT_I for icon toggle.

Options - Arena setup - Enviorment - Arena settings:

FuelBurnMult to 0.00 (yes, it tells you you cant put it that low, but feel free to ignore

)
PlaneAmmoMult/GunAmmoMult (anything with "AmmoMult") set to 1,000,000.00 will out the ammo OOR (ie unlimited).

Then hit the SAVE button before exiting arena setup, that way you dont have to change the settings every time you log on to OFFLINE.

Dichotomy · « **Reply #17 on:** December 31, 2006, 06:01:47 PM »

thank you maam *tips hat

Benny Moore · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2006, 09:22:34 PM »

A last ditch effort that brings me moderate success is to not pull maximum angle of attack in your break turn until you see him in the position when you think he will fire a killing shot. Then yank back a little harder in your break turn, using the "saved" energy to try to dodge the shot. As I said I only get moderate results with this, but that's because I fly the Lightning. In smaller ships this dodge works very well.

If you have some altitude, beginning your break turn rather nose down works well. Chances are, if he's on your tail he has more energy than you. Consequently, it will be difficult for him to bleed off that energy in order to follow you down. A split-S can also work, but don't make it straight down or it will be too easy for him to lead you.

My last tip is simply to know that, as Baldeagl said, when he's behind you it's expected that he will win. The same is really true of an enemy with superior energy; if you and the other pilot have the same approximate skill, even if you do everything right he will win unless he makes a mistake. Don't become frustrated because you lost to someone who started out above or behind you.

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #19 on:** December 31, 2006, 10:16:48 PM »

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My last tip is simply to know that, as Baldeagl said, when he's behind you it's expected that he will win. The same is really true of an enemy with superior energy; if you and the other pilot have the same approximate skill, even if you do everything right he will win unless he makes a mistake. Don't become frustrated because you lost to someone who started out above or behind you.

1st, I did not read it as Baldeagl saying the enemy in tow was expected to win. I read it as defender was in the process of losing but has not lost YET.......

2nd, If you go into any fight thinking this way, then you are losing 1/2 the fight before you ever get started, one must have the mindset that they "can and will" win every fight regardless of how different the E states between the 2 are. One should never let that thought of starting to lose or already lost creep into the mind......when one does then they will only give a 1/2 hearted effort on trying to come out of it victorious...

Happy New Year AHers ~S~

Murdr · « **Reply #20 on:** December 31, 2006, 10:37:01 PM »

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...one must have the mindset that they "can and will" win every fight regardless of how different the E states between the 2 are.

I agree 100%

Kinda why I titled this one film nvrgivup.ahf

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #21 on:** December 31, 2006, 10:42:43 PM »

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1st, I did not read it as Baldeagl saying the enemy in tow was expected to win. I read it as defender was in the process of losing but has not lost YET.......

2nd, If you go into any fight thinking this way, then you are losing 1/2 the fight before you ever get started, one must have the mindset that they "can and will" win every fight regardless of how different the E states between the 2 are. One should never let that thought of starting to lose or already lost creep into the mind......when one does then they will only give a 1/2 hearted effort on trying to come out of it victorious...

Happy New Year AHers ~S~

very well said TC.

to me, a higher bogie is nothing more than a kill that i have to wait for, not being able to actively force an engagement but knowing when it starts im going to win.

Dichotomy · « **Reply #22 on:** December 31, 2006, 11:35:51 PM »

film saved

B@t and Mur.. thanks ..

~~both you guys have helped me indirectly more than you know~~

BaldEagl · « **Reply #23 on:** January 01, 2007, 03:23:11 AM »

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1st, I did not read it as Baldeagl saying the enemy in tow was expected to win. I read it as defender was in the process of losing but has not lost YET.......

You read that right.

Benny Moore · « **Reply #24 on:** January 01, 2007, 11:03:51 AM »

Well, you're probably right about the mindset, but what I said was quite true. If the other pilot's as good as or better than you, and he's already behind or above you, you're screwed.

BaldEagl · « **Reply #25 on:** January 01, 2007, 12:13:32 PM »

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Well, you're probably right about the mindset, but what I said was quite true. If the other pilot's as good as or better than you, and he's already behind or above you, you're screwed.

That partly depends on if you're in matched or unmatched planes and what tactics each "equal" pilot is comfortable using.

I got jumped one night from above by a Tempest and a FW190, the Temp flow by a "better" pilot than me. I was the one who flew home and landed in my Spit XVI. Neither of those guys made it out alive.

High yo-yo, low yo-yo, flat scissors, rolling scissors, flat turn, loop, immelman, split-s, defensive spiral, flaps out, gear out, WEP on, throttle off, etc, etc, etc. It's difficult for even the best of pilots to react instantaneously to the arsenal of tactics available to the defensive player.

Yes, I agree you are in trouble but in no way have you lost until you've lost.

BaldEagl · « **Reply #26 on:** January 01, 2007, 02:20:21 PM »

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Evasive reversal lesson package

Options>Arena setup>Enviorment>Arena settings > Change FuelBurnMultiplier to .001
alt+i to cycle through Icon display options.

Murder, nice film set. You're write up was spot on with what I alredy do and it looks like we use very similar techniques although, until recently it was the "roll off" in the final moments that I was missing. Like I mentioned, I managed to piece it together through somewhat deductive reasoning.

BTW, that was the first time I've ever watched a film in AH!

Schatzi · « **Reply #27 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:01:28 AM »

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BTW, that was the first time I've ever watched a film in AH!

Watching your own (and others) fights later , without the immediacy, stress and confusion of combat can be a very valuable training tool to spot mistakes/good things in your tactics.

Schutt · « **Reply #28 on:** January 03, 2007, 12:40:28 PM »

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Well, you're probably right about the mindset, but what I said was quite true. If the other pilot's as good as or better than you, and he's already behind or above you, you're screwed.

Not true, not screwed but at a bit higher disadvantage. BTW if hes above you you can still be in his "dead zone" making it quite save.

Both balsy and puujiko are way better than me and still i can dodge their attacks, i agree that the chances are slim but still possible to a point where they give up, fly home or a friendly helps me.

The trick is that when i know i am at a disadvantage i risk spin/full blackout/e-loss/stall which the other one doesnt risk so freely since he wants to keep the advantage. Worst thing that might happen is that i get shot down, so evrything i do can only make it better.