Author Topic: Would You Watch the Fatal Sting? (Read 1082 times)

Chairboy · « **Reply #15 on:** January 04, 2007, 02:49:45 PM »

Why should a 'rubbernecker' feel guilt unless they have created a problem for someone else? IE, if the person is driving and slows down to see or causes an accident, then guilt wouldn't be irrational I suppose.

But someone on a sidewalk? Someone browsing the web? No guilt is needed.

sluggish · « **Reply #16 on:** January 04, 2007, 03:01:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Why should a 'rubbernecker' feel guilt unless they have created a problem for someone else? IE, if the person is driving and slows down to see or causes an accident, then guilt wouldn't be irrational I suppose.

But someone on a sidewalk? Someone browsing the web? No guilt is needed.

I can see how this concept could escape some.

I'm talking about the guilt in the curiosity of watching a life end. The guilt in looking into their eyes and watching consciousness fade. The curiosity in watching a person cease to exist; watching someone pay the ultimate price for your entertainment.

No, you're right. There shouldn't be any guilt in that at all.

Maverick · « **Reply #17 on:** January 04, 2007, 03:12:32 PM »

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I would watch it for no other reason than to see what he did wrong. As a diver who has been up close to sting rays I want to make sure I don't make the same mistake.

Don't get close to a stingray. As long as you are not in close proximity you will have no problems. Easy.

JB88 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 04, 2007, 03:28:20 PM »

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Don't get close to a stingray. As long as you are not in close proximity you will have no problems. Easy.

and for heavens sake, please, whatever you do, don't try to make it with a stingray. it can only end in tears.

Chairboy · « **Reply #19 on:** January 04, 2007, 03:36:08 PM »

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The curiosity in watching a person cease to exist; watching someone pay the ultimate price for your entertainment.

They aren't dying for the spectator's entertainment, they're dying because of whatever killed them. What kind of crazy school did you go to?

sluggish · « **Reply #20 on:** January 04, 2007, 03:39:26 PM »

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They aren't dying for the spectator's entertainment, they're dying because of whatever killed them. What kind of crazy school did you go to?

Whatever you need to do to rationalize your way around the issue...

Chairboy · « **Reply #21 on:** January 04, 2007, 03:46:10 PM »

You haven't established why guilt is necessary. Has the observer hurt someone? Has the observer created the situation? If you're describing a situation where the observer is the person who actually stabbed the person who then subsequently dies, then guilt seems rational. Otherwise, it doesn't.

sluggish · « **Reply #22 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:07:17 PM »

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You haven't established why guilt is necessary. Has the observer hurt someone? Has the observer created the situation? If you're describing a situation where the observer is the person who actually stabbed the person who then subsequently dies, then guilt seems rational. Otherwise, it doesn't.

I'm not going to sit hear and argue about why you don't have a conscience and whether or not one is useful in today’s world and I certainly won't assist you in rationalizing your lack of guilt in garnering entertainment from watching a person die.

We shall agree that we don't agree.

Chairboy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:22:23 PM »

It's interesting that you've gone to asserting that I don't have a conscience. I'd like to know how you get from point A to point B. If I saw a person get killed, I'd be distressed. I'd probably be agitated, and I doubt I'd ever forget the image.

But I don't see how guilt is appropriate, and you haven't bothered to explain in even the simplest terms why you think it is. The dictionary definition of guilt I'm familiar with is "the state of having committed an offense" or "remorse caused by feeling responsible for some offence ". What is the offense?

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #24 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:27:50 PM »

Sure I'd watch it, not only because I'm a scuba diver, but because I liked Steve Irwin. I want to see what happened to him, I want to know the details.

But I have a curious mind, some people don't.

Brenjen · « **Reply #25 on:** January 05, 2007, 05:07:41 PM »

I'd watch it, he wasn't any relation of mine & I'd like to see just how not to approach a stingray as demonstrated by an expert.

john9001 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 05, 2007, 06:11:24 PM »

wot ah beauty.

Reschke · « **Reply #27 on:** January 05, 2007, 06:15:31 PM »

We already live in a world where people thrive off of that sort of thing. I would never watch it and would sincerely hope that no one with a brain (even if they don't fully know how to use their brain) would never release the footage.

Mark Luper · « **Reply #28 on:** January 05, 2007, 06:37:34 PM »

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I'd watch it, he wasn't any relation of mine & I'd like to see just how not to approach a stingray as demonstrated by an expert.

The relation part is what would do it for me. I would want to know the details of how a relative of mine died doing something they enjoyed. I would probably only watch it once unless something appeared I felt needed more investigation.

If it were someone I was deeply in love with I don't know if I could watch it. Probably not.

If it were someone unrelated to me I would watch it at least once to get the details of how they died. Not for morbid curiosity but to let my mind rest about the subject and to allow me to live on. There would also be the benefit of acquiring some knowledge that might save my own life.

Unless I were involved in causing the death in some way or did not help to prevent it if I could, I would not feel any guilt. There would be no reason to.

Mark

mrshiver · « **Reply #29 on:** January 05, 2007, 07:12:49 PM »

Destroy it! Period! End of discussion!