Author Topic: Would You Watch the Fatal Sting? (Read 1131 times)

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #30 on:** January 05, 2007, 07:49:38 PM »

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Originally posted by sluggish
As far as what he did wrong, do you really need to see the video to know what he did wrong? He was antagonizing the stingray just like he did with every other wild animal he ever came into contact with.

And you know this how? You have not seen the video tape. You merely assume you know, without any actual knowledge.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #31 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:12:37 PM »

If its around I'd watch it.
But wouldnt go out of my way to do so.

I only care slightly less about he tapeof Irwin dying then I did of Irwin when he was alive.

Now.. if he gotten eaten by a croc.

That I'd go out of my way to watch

vorticon · « **Reply #32 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:18:08 PM »

wouldnt watch it. cant seem to come up with a good reason it wouldnt be a bit like watching a rape video.

Halo · « **Reply #33 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:18:27 PM »

I had some wonderful thoughts brilliantly summarized but they were lost when the server was changed. I'll take that as bovine guidance from the Lone Star intestate and jingle jangle back to the bleachers.

Besides, you guys are doing a great job roping the main points and getting 'em still enough for a closer look . (Exit Rodeo Analogy)

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #34 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:21:02 PM »

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Originally posted by sluggish

Do any of you rubbernecks get a tinge of guilt when you give in to your morbid curiosity?

Nope. I've seen the video stills of the "fatal sting" that were on Ogre not to long ago and I didn't feel any guilt about it. Nor did I feel any guilt when I watched the footage of Saddam being hung.

ack-ack

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #35 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:39:09 PM »

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Originally posted by sluggish
I can see how this concept could escape some.

I'm talking about the guilt in the curiosity of watching a life end. The guilt in looking into their eyes and watching consciousness fade. The curiosity in watching a person cease to exist; watching someone pay the ultimate price for your entertainment.

No, you're right. There shouldn't be any guilt in that at all.

Why should there be any guilt? Life and Death are the natural order of things.

Do you feel guilty watching old WW2 footage of combat or gun camera footage?

ack-ack

sluggish · « **Reply #36 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:41:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
And you know this how? You have not seen the video tape. You merely assume you know, without any actual knowledge.

Over the course of the last ten years or so I have seen this guy screw with every wild animal that crossed his path. In terms of aligator tackling alone, he was batting 1000. I believe it was beyond his ability to not mess with every wild animal he saw. Honestly, when you heard he was dead, were you really surprised?

A simple mathematic equation tells me that if A + B = C then C - B = A.

Chairboy · « **Reply #37 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:48:34 PM »

Sluggish, no response to me? I take it you concede the whole guilt issue.

sluggish · « **Reply #38 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:50:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Sluggish, no response to me? I take it you concede the whole guilt issue.

I shall repeat:

I'm not going to sit hear and argue about why you don't have a conscience and whether or not one is useful in today’s world and I certainly won't assist you in rationalizing your lack of guilt in garnering entertainment from watching a person die.

We shall agree that we don't agree.

Concede? No. End of discussion? Yes.

Yeager · « **Reply #39 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:57:09 PM »

oh gawd, here we go again

Brenjen · « **Reply #40 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:57:18 PM »

I'd hate to see how many dead bodies would be laying around in wrecks & burned houses & yes....floating bloated in the ocean, if we all felt guilt for deaths we had absolutely nothing to do with or feel guilty about. No one forced him to get in there & swim with that fish & no one would have expected the reaction of it to his presence, tourists pay to swim with & even touch them. If video of some dude from the bronx getting stabbed in the chest circulated the internet no one would give a hoot in hades. All the attention is only because of who he was, not what happened.

Chairboy · « **Reply #41 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:57:25 PM »

Well, since you're the one who labeled it as entertainment, that's what we call a strawman argument. Also, no word from you on how you concluded that I don't have a conscience. I don't think you understand what guilt means, even though I gave you a definition. Odd.

Gunthr · « **Reply #42 on:** January 05, 2007, 09:04:38 PM »

I want to see the video. If you dive in warm waters, you should too.

I've never seen this behavior, and I think there are a whole lot of others who enjoy the warm oceans that need to see it as well. Its cut and dried, with the only caveat being the feelings of the family of Steve Irwin. I would never demand to see it. But if his wife would allow it, I'd really like to see it.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #43 on:** January 05, 2007, 09:08:48 PM »

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Originally posted by sluggish
Over the course of the last ten years or so I have seen this guy screw with every wild animal that crossed his path. In terms of aligator tackling alone, he was batting 1000. I believe it was beyond his ability to not mess with every wild animal he saw. Honestly, when you heard he was dead, were you really surprised?

A simple mathematic equation tells me that if A + B = C then C - B = A.

Okay, so you assume you know what happened, but in fact you do not. Just so everyone is clear opn the fact that you do not know, you just made an assumption.

sluggish · « **Reply #44 on:** January 05, 2007, 09:09:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Brenjen
I'd hate to see how many dead bodies would be laying around in wrecks & burned houses & yes....floating bloated in the ocean, if we all felt guilt for deaths we had absolutely nothing to do with or feel guilty about. No one forced him to get in there & swim with that fish & no one would have expected the reaction of it to his presence, tourists pay to swim with & even touch them. If video of some dude from the bronx getting stabbed in the chest circulated the internet no one would give a hoot in hades. All the attention is only because of who he was, not what happened.

You are refering to people whose job it is to recover dead bodies. This subject is about people seeking out snuff films for their personal entertainment. These are two totally different things.