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Offline Yeager

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« on: January 05, 2007, 03:02:39 PM »
How long until the Pelosi gang starts banning guns again.  

In my state the mayor of our largest city has already called for the state legislature to ban assault weapons and close gunshow loophole and requiring folks to purchase trigger locks.   (In case you think your smart, assault weapons are already banned in my state, the gunshow loophole isn't a loophole at all if your being a lawabiding citizen and trigger locks are great when you dont need a gun.  Its all rhetoric to divert attention while they outlaw handguns and require firearms registration)

As a result of a recent well publicised shooting, a major liberal talkshow host here in town is suggesting that any american who has their firearm stolen from them be charged with a crime for "allowing" their gun to be stolen in the first place.

All this since the pelosi gang took charge.  They arent waiting very long to get back to their old habbits are they. :mad:  

I've got to admit, the past 12 years has been nice not worrying about being turned into a criminal because I own firearms :cry

Time to get fired back up I guess.  NRA just gained another member.
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Offline john9001

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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2007, 03:15:30 PM »
thats funny :) , whenever the libruls start talking about "gun control' i rejoin the NRA.

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2007, 03:40:05 PM »
Why don't you become a life member?  It seems cheaper in the long run and you don't have to wait for the liberals.
Who are you to wave your finger?

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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2007, 04:45:03 PM »
If only the right would defend the entire Bill of Rights just as vigorously as this one aspect of it we would be much better off these days. Especialy the 4th and 5th.

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2007, 05:57:14 PM »
Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make [them] swords or spears: 1 Samuel 13:19

And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side...Exodus 32:27

But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take [any] person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand. : Ezekiel 33:6

Thank you Yeager for warning us......
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

Offline Guppy35

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2007, 06:13:50 PM »
Funny how my 'ban' AR15 shoots just like my post ban AR15.

Much ado about nothing
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2007, 11:06:34 PM »
Can't the Repubs filibuster like the dems did?

Don't forget we have the VETO until 08

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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2007, 04:54:18 AM »
Gun facts

1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

3. Colt: The original point and click interface.

4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.

5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?

6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.

7. "Free" men do not ask permission to bear arms.

8. If you don't know your rights you don't have any.

9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

10. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved.

11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?

12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.

13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.

15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.

16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

17. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.

18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.

19. Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer.

20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.

21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.

22. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.

23. Enforce the "gun control laws" we ALREADY have, don't make more.

24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.

25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

26. "A government of the people, by the people, for the people..."

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2007, 10:08:06 AM »
flatbar... if the liberals worried as much about the second as they do about seatbelts and gay marriage then I might listen to em.. the ACLU believes that no gun control law is too much and that the second does not apply to "the people" like all the other amendments and the constitution itself.. "the people" does not apply according to them.

So yeah.. the second needs more defense than most... firstly... it is perhaps the most important and basic right and second.... it is the one that is being attacked the most by your friends.

As for the NRA... any person who believes in the second and doesn't join the NRA is a hypocrite and a fool.

lazs

Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2007, 10:20:37 AM »
lazs, does the ACLU materially support the creation of gun control laws, or is it only a position it has taken?

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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2007, 10:48:26 AM »
I have written them.. they are very evasive and dishonest about the whole thing...

Their official position is that (contrary to every constitutional scholar)  that, the second is not an "individual right" that it somehow applies only to the state..  they won't get into it any more than that because I think even they realize how silly that position is.   They really avoid discourse on it.

The real reason is that no socialist/commie wants people to be armed... sooooo... just like the vouchers subject they stand mute or, nearly so.. they realize that armed and educated people don't turn to socialism.   Only the unarmed and indoctrinated will submit.

I think this is the biggest thing I have against the ACLU... their agenda is socialist... they will spend countless hours and resources to split the finest hair over "seperation of church and state" when it doesn't even really exist but... they gleefully watch as we are disarmed and indoctrinated in public schools.

The founder of the ACLU was an avowed commie... the apple has not fallen far from the tree.

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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2007, 11:26:03 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
flatbar... if the liberals worried as much about the second as they do about seatbelts and gay marriage then I might listen to em.. the ACLU believes that no gun control law is too much and that the second does not apply to "the people" like all the other amendments and the constitution itself.. "the people" does not apply according to them.

So yeah.. the second needs more defense than most... firstly... it is perhaps the most important and basic right and second.... it is the one that is being attacked the most by your friends.

As for the NRA... any person who believes in the second and doesn't join the NRA is a hypocrite and a fool.

lazs


So, the prospect of some future gun control, how ever thin the evidence of that may be, outweighs the real assult on the 4th and 5th that is going on right now?

In a signing statement the Prez declares that the gvt has the right to open and read your private mail w/o a warrent that is easily obtained, and your worried, no, paranoid about a few anti gun activists?

Boy, the NRA sure is playing you guys like a Stradivarius Violin.

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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2007, 11:28:06 AM »
The ACLU is still a communist organization in all but name. They are "neutral" on gun control but will defend an extremist "christian" group ridiculing dead soldiers at their funerals while denying mainstream christians the right to free speech. They defend the nutjobs only because they know these people are a detriment to the casue of christianity.

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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2007, 11:34:55 AM »
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Originally posted by Flatbar
So, the prospect of some future gun control, how ever thin the evidence of that may be, outweighs the real assult on the 4th and 5th that is going on right now?

In a signing statement the Prez declares that the gvt has the right to open and read your private mail w/o a warrent that is easily obtained, and your worried, no, paranoid about a few anti gun activists?

Boy, the NRA sure is playing you guys like a Stradivarius Violin.


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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2007, 12:17:19 PM »
Boy, the NRA sure is playing you guys like a Stradivarius Violin.
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How so?  What I told you was that within days of the democrats taking power in both houses, the mayor of the largest city in my state called on the state legislature to enact tough new "common sense gun laws".  A Ban on Assault weapons, closing the gun show loophole and requiring trigger locks.

Read this:

The mayor is calling for passage of four new laws:

Closing the non-existent "gun show loophole"

Banning so-called "assault weapons"

Mandating the use of locking devices on firearms

Creating a "crime gun tracing program"

Here's the other side of the story on all of these proposals:


Gun shows


The "gun show loophole" is a myth, manufactured by the gun control
lobby.

Fewer than 1% of felons get their guns at gun shows (US DOJ study).

All laws that apply to sales of guns, by dealers and by private
citizens, outside of gun shows, also apply at gun shows. There is no
"loophole."

The only gun shows conducted in the greater Seattle area - those put on
by the Washington Arms Collectors - ALREADY require background checks
before a gun may be purchased. No background check, no membership; no
membership, no gun sales.


"Assault weapons"


These firearms are rarely used in crimes.

These firearms are in fact are less lethal than the common duck hunter's
shotgun.

Contrary to popular belief, these firearms are NOT "readily convertible
to full automatic fire."

Approximately 200 high power rifle matches are conducted in Washington
annually, matches where so-called "assault rifles" play a prominent
part.


Mandatory "safe" storage


Washington's existing reckless endangerment statute (RCW 9A.36.050) may
already be used to prosecute irresponsible gun owners.

Accidental shootings in Washington are rare. According to the CDC,
accidental shootings don't even make the "top 10" causes of accidental
deaths among juveniles.

Personal security requirements vary widely; one state-mandated size does

not fit all.

Trigger locks and loaded firearms are an inherently unsafe combination,
something that all lock manufacturers caution against.

Trigger locks do not prevent theft of firearms.


"Crime gun" tracing


The BATF already runs the National Tracing Center, available to all law
enforcement agencies

The Washington Department of Licensing already maintains the state
pistol registry, where all handguns sold at retail are linked to the
purchaser

Tracing information is already available for criminal prosecution of
violators.

The true purpose for this so-called tracing scheme is to use the data to

sue gun dealers and distributors because federal law prohibits such use
of federal data.

The true root cause of so-called "gun violence" in Seattle and other
urban areas is the proliferation of gangs, of drug dealing, and of the
failure of the criminal justice system to keep dangerous criminals
incarcerated. All the gun control laws in the world won't control these
activities. just look at the gang and drug problem in England.

I need you to do two things:


Write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper, using the talking
points above, to tell the truth about Mayor Nickels' gun control scheme.

Pick one topic, keep the letter down to about two to three paragraphs to

increase the chance it will be published. Contact information (including

e-mail addresses normally) for letters to the editor is available on the

editorial page of your newspaper.


Write or call your state legislators (one Senator and two
Representatives) and ask them to keep you informed on proposed gun
control legislation. Make sure THEY know that Mayor Nickels' (and
Washington Ceasefire's) gun control agenda will have no impact on crime.
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This is just the start. Sign up for the NRA today.  Hopefully two years is all we will have to put up with from these people.
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