Author Topic: Jeremy Clarkson-The Good The Bad The Ugly (Read 10218 times)

namvet · « **Reply #30 on:** January 07, 2007, 05:31:11 PM »

Any of the foreign Corvette experts here got seat time in a C6?

Viking · « **Reply #31 on:** January 07, 2007, 05:42:33 PM »

I don't see any Corvette experts here at all. Going by Clarkson the C6 is the most decent US car there is (except the GT40), it was the Z06 he didn't like.

Mustaine · « **Reply #32 on:** January 07, 2007, 06:05:28 PM »

I have always found him a bit funny.... but man some of those "comparison" test were bunk.

what he said about the caddy is hilarious though "sounds like farts, many different types, and you don't want to hear any of them"

Mini D · « **Reply #33 on:** January 07, 2007, 06:05:42 PM »

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Yes, but the Land Rover is a $30-40,000 car. The Range Rover is a $70-80,000 car. Sort of like comparing a Fiat Punto with a Ferrari F430, both are built by Fiat, but only one is a Ferrari.

Not at all like comparing the two. Or are you saying the Ferrari F430 is based on the Punto?

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The difference between your '91 525 and my '91 525 is that mine was built in Germany to European standards, while yours was probably built in South Carolina and built to US standards.

Ummm... you may want to check and see when that plant opened up. Right now, you're talking out your ass.

Viking · « **Reply #34 on:** January 07, 2007, 06:41:48 PM »

Did the plant open after 1991? Ok, but BMW's made for the US market are made with many cheaper parts than their European siblings. Ask any American BMW enthusiast, or just visit one of their bbs'. "Where can I get my hands on ellipsoid lights?", "Where can I get eurospec this and that". What is known as "sport suspension" in the US is the regular suspension here etc. America and Europe are two completely different markets, and the cars are made to fit those markets.

Mini D · « **Reply #35 on:** January 07, 2007, 08:32:00 PM »

See how programmed you are viking? You change tunes without even batting an eye.

Oh well... let me just leave you saying that show was made for people like you. Your assumption that my BMW was made in the U.S. only highlights that. The irony is that the Z-4 he raced around the track was most likely made at the plant you cited as sub-standard.

I hope that helped.

john9001 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 07, 2007, 08:52:11 PM »

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Ok, but BMW's made for the US market are made with many cheaper parts than their European siblings.

i always thought BMW's were over priced junk, not like my 91 Honda Accord which is a finely crafted road machine built in Ohio.

Bronk · « **Reply #37 on:** January 07, 2007, 09:05:23 PM »

Picking out a few things as I view this.

He is complaining about the Z06 being on leaf springs.

It in fact runs on ONE composite leaf spring in the rear.

This spring is transverse mounted . It probably weighs less than 2 coil springs rated for the same duty.

Just because its a leaf spring doesn't make it low tech.

Bronk

Bronk · « **Reply #38 on:** January 07, 2007, 09:21:47 PM »

Now for the Mustang VS Lotus.

How road comfy do you think that Lotus is?

Yup he neglects to talk about that. I can't help but wonder why?

Bronk

Bronk · « **Reply #39 on:** January 07, 2007, 09:27:20 PM »

For the off road challenge I noticed he left out JEEP .
Once again I wonder why?

He just keeps on playing to his audience.

Hope you Euros don't fall for all this BS.

Bronk

Bronk · « **Reply #40 on:** January 07, 2007, 09:41:56 PM »

LMAO

Straight line challenge.

BMW 2x the price I'll take 1/3 of the diff put it into the 300 and smoke the BMW with ease.

Why not put a euro car thats close to the same price and see what it does?

Bronk

Neubob · « **Reply #41 on:** January 07, 2007, 09:49:39 PM »

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Why not put a euro car thats close to the same price and see what it does?

For the same reason that he doesn't put candid show shots of drunken soccer hooligans side by side with overwieght, white-toothed Americans.

Choocha · « **Reply #42 on:** January 07, 2007, 09:54:16 PM »

I wish somebody would post Consumer Reports ratings for every euro car he featured. If I recall, it goes something like this:

Lotus= **** Quality
Jag= Worse than **** Quality
Land Rover= Super **** Quality
Benz= **** Quality
BMW= ok

Funny, he never mentioned how any of those cars can absorbe a molotov cocktail thrown by angry muslim youth roiting in the streets (very important feature in euro land).

Bronk · « **Reply #43 on:** January 07, 2007, 09:57:28 PM »

I don't know what he is getting at with the Atom vs Dodge Ram.

Why not have them move 1000 lbs of bricks around the track and see who finishes first?

Bronk

Viking · « **Reply #44 on:** January 07, 2007, 10:14:50 PM »

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See how programmed you are viking? You change tunes without even batting an eye.

How so?

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Originally posted by Mini D
Oh well... let me just leave you saying that show was made for people like you. Your assumption that my BMW was made in the U.S. only highlights that. The irony is that the Z-4 he raced around the track was most likely made at the plant you cited as sub-standard.

That show was hilarious, but I knew who would win long before those races started. Like Clarkson said, they were forgone conclusions. Also I never said the US plant was substandard, just that they build cars to substandard specs compared to plants in Europe. That's not the fault of the workers or the plant management. That's decided in Germany.

And btw. the BMW Z4 is crap … no matter where it is built.