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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2007, 08:08:08 PM »
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...the quad damage for the Ju-87, etc.


You mean like this?


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« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2007, 08:15:48 PM »
i hear they goin to perk every single bullet... so planes like the p47 with 3400rounds of 50cal are going to cost ALOT of perks.......




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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2007, 08:17:12 PM »
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speaking of....


if we ever do get modified plane ord loads i would love to the the 190 F8 with the torpedo option.


If the FW190F-8 gets torpedos, I'd like to see the P-38 have that same option too as well as the option to carry 3 1k bombs.


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« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2007, 08:26:41 PM »
The six 20mm Griffon Spit was only a mockup, it didn't have actual cannons in it.  I have the photo in a book as well.
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« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2007, 08:40:34 PM »
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But in practice it didn't really happen that way. There were also problems warming the outboard guns at altitude, if memory serves. Most that had the 4x gun setup had 2 removed because "2 were enough" -- at this time London was no longer under seige and the bulk of the targets were Luftwaffe fighters, smaller aircraft than the big bombers of the BOB.

EDIT: Got a picture of that spit? That'd be kinda cool to see.


Should be noted it was only a cannon mock up. (looks evil though)

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There were also a handful of RAAF Mk VIIIs with 4 x 20mm also.

Problem is going to be exactly the same as the clipped wing argument - 4 x 20mm Spits existed, just how many is unknown.
Yes there was a problem with the Mk IX and heating for the outer pair, probably why most fitted with quad 20mms are found on older Mk V's in warmer climates.

[edit] This of course does not include the F.21 (if we ever get it), ALL of which had 4 x 20mm fitted as standard, in a re-designed wing.
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« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2007, 02:02:27 AM »
That'd make any bomber crap a brick, for sure! (More reason why I want the 190 with 6x MG151/20s!!)

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« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2007, 02:06:47 AM »
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4x20mm spits should not be introduced because they would be the only thing ever flown and far too powerfull for the whiners to handle.


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« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2007, 02:49:37 AM »
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If the FW190F-8 gets torpedos, I'd like to see the P-38 have that same option too as well as the option to carry 3 1k bombs.


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is that real? if so did not know that... only know the 190F8 carried torpedoes, in multiple sources of books i have and on the net.
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« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2007, 11:12:40 AM »
While the 190 did carry the SC1800 (to bomb a bridge in 1945 after the allies took it) I don't think they ever used the torpedo in combat -- it was being tested but not really used, I believe.

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« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2007, 12:47:57 PM »
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While the 190 did carry the SC1800 (to bomb a bridge in 1945 after the allies took it) I don't think they ever used the torpedo in combat -- it was being tested but not really used, I believe.
here:
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Fw 190F-8/U2 - torpedo plane with two underwing ETC 503 racks or under-fuselage mounted ETC 504 (previously ETC 501) bomb rack. The plane was equipped with a special sight system, TSA 2A (Tiefsturzangle 2A) for precise aerial torpedo BT (Bombentorpedo) aiming. Using this torpedo it was possible to attack targets from a higher altitude and from a higher angle than in the case of an ordinary aerial torpedo LT (Lufttorpedo). It was planned to use two BT 400 or one BT 700 torpedo. Other armament was reduced to two fuselage mounted MG 131 machine guns. A small number of these planes were in service with 11./KG200.
though I believe i have seen it other places also, and have a book with a picture of 1 loaded.
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« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2007, 01:00:32 PM »
Well, we won't get torps or SC1800s on 190s then. Both stripped the plane down including weapons (SC1800 plane had none, I believe). It would be an entirely new variant in the planelist, and I can't see that happening just for a torpedo or a huge bomb.

Now, the SC1000.... THAT would be nice to see as a perk option (2.2k bomb! DIE tigers, DIE!)

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« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2007, 01:18:22 PM »
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If the FW190F-8 gets torpedos, I'd like to see the P-38 have that same option too as well as the option to carry 3 1k bombs.


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Rather see the 38 with Napalm tanks.


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« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2007, 01:32:57 PM »
I doubt that'll help, Krusty. You could drop a Lanc's worth of those suckers and bull's-eye the Tiger with every one, and he'll STILL drive off.

How about they fix bomb effects on GVs, first? (dropped a 1000-pounder in the TURRET of an Osti last week and watched him drive away. I didn't even get an assist for him when he finally died).
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« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2007, 03:34:32 PM »
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I doubt that'll help, Krusty. You could drop a Lanc's worth of those suckers and bull's-eye the Tiger with every one, and he'll STILL drive off.

How about they fix bomb effects on GVs, first? (dropped a 1000-pounder in the TURRET of an Osti last week and watched him drive away. I didn't even get an assist for him when he finally died).


Just use the rockets on the 190F8...they can kill tigers with 1 shot.  :)

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« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2007, 03:53:53 PM »
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How about they fix bomb effects on GVs, first? (dropped a 1000-pounder in the TURRET of an Osti last week and watched him drive away. I didn't even get an assist for him when he finally died).


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