Analog Pedals

[bzek74]

I finally installed my soundblaster gameport to use my old ch pro pedals, Im not getting and detection or anything.....Any advice aside from buying new pedals lol.

[eagl]

By default, Windows will not detect rudder pedals alone.

You either need to find and install custom "rudder only" drivers (should be available from CH) or plug in another analog device like a racing wheel along with the rudder pedals.  Then you'll just need to select the correct axis for your controls in the game.  You can have a bunch of controllers hooked up under winXP, and they just show up as multiple sticks and axis.  AH has for a very long time given us the ability to chose any joystick axis for each flight control input and if I recall correctly, AH (WB) was one of the first games to offer this flexibility.

[llama]

You could also buy a cheapo ($5) analog joystick, and then plug THAT into the second joystick port on the pedals' Y adapter.

Windows will then recognize it as a joystick with rudders.

Then go into AH and just use the Rudder Axis for yaw input. Ignore the other cheapo joystick. Then map pitch, roll, and throttle to your "real" joystick.

AH is very flexible when it comes to this sort of thing - much moreso than most other games.

-Llama

[StarOfAfrica2]

CH doesnt have a driver for analog pedals as a standalone device.  Not that I've seen.  I hear though that you can hook them up via a USB adapter and it will work.  Havent tried it myself, as I still use a full analog setup.

[SkyChimp03]

Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
CH doesnt have a driver for analog pedals as a standalone device.  Not that I've seen.  I hear though that you can hook them up via a USB adapter and it will work.  Havent tried it myself, as I still use a full analog setup.

Belive theres a dos driver out there somewhere even so i couldn't get mine to work.  Didn't try to hard though i had usb at the time aswell.

[Krusty]

I cut the connector off the end and hard-wired mine so they didn't need a cheapo joystick to run (I only have a Sidewinder, which is incompatible with the pedals)

[eagl]

Only other thing I can suggest is to get the final CH products analog drivers and see if they help.  You can try here if you want to search for more info...

http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/

[StarOfAfrica2]

Originally posted by SkyChimp03
Belive theres a dos driver out there somewhere even so i couldn't get mine to work.  Didn't try to hard though i had usb at the time aswell.

Yes, there is a driver for analog pedals (the one eagl is talking about) that is designed to make them work under Windows XP.  It still wont let Windows recognize analog pedals by themselves.  Windows recognizes a "Joystick with rudder pedals", not "rudder pedals".  

I have heard though, as I said, that some people have used a USB adapter and gotten Windows to recognize the pedals as a generic USB device.  I dont know how well that works, which adapter they used, or anything else.  Just offering it as an option you could search for on the BBS here.

[SkyChimp03]

Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Yes, there is a driver for analog pedals (the one eagl is talking about) that is designed to make them work under Windows XP.  It still wont let Windows recognize analog pedals by themselves.  Windows recognizes a "Joystick with rudder pedals", not "rudder pedals".  

I have heard though, as I said, that some people have used a USB adapter and gotten Windows to recognize the pedals as a generic USB device.  I dont know how well that works, which adapter they used, or anything else.  Just offering it as an option you could search for on the BBS here.

Oh yea i spent 29$ on one it works but couldn't get hat to work   Willing to give it away i don't need it.

[bzek74]

Im almost tempted to try hand wiring.

[Krusty]

You have the 2-pedal system, where each pedal has its own toe movement, but neither slides forward/backward?

If you want to hand-wire I can help you out, but it might help if you have a little more supplies than I did. I used some copper wire that was the exact perfect size to fit into the gameport holes, but I wish I'd had a proper radio-shack gameport adapter (where you wire what you want to the proper pins).

Basically all you have to do is get the power in to the pot, and take the signal coming out to the 4th axis. Then you just hot-wire the power in to axis 1, 2, and 3, (with no pot in between, they're just fully deflected all the time). This fools the system into thinking you have a 4-axis stick, and it recognizes instantly in windows. Then you just calibrate it by ignoring all axes except the rudder. You move that to both extremes, then finish. In AH you just clear the assignment of your stick's twisty motion, then apply on your pedals the rudder axis only on the 4th axis.

Learning how to use them properly, that's the real challenge.

If you're thinking of going this route (hard-wiring) send me an e-mail I can help you out with what you need to do.

[doc1kelley]

Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
CH doesnt have a driver for analog pedals as a standalone device.  Not that I've seen.  I hear though that you can hook them up via a USB adapter and it will work.  Havent tried it myself, as I still use a full analog setup.

What he say... What he say...

Yes, RadioShack has a gameport-USB adapter and I've used it for years in both AirWarrior and Aces High and it works great.  It recognizes the pedals in winblows XP as "USB Adapter" and when you calibrate it, just skip everything until you get to the "Z" Axis.  When years ago I was using it in AW connected to a gameport with CH Fighterstick and throttle , it would spike alot so I took it off and went to the USB adapter and the spiking went away.  I went to the USB versions of throttle and fighterstick but still use those analog CH pedals with the USB Adapter to this day and the analog pedals are now over 10 years old and going, going, and still going.

All the Best...
Jay
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[AWwrgwy]

This actually worked for me too.  JS with z-axis throttle in sound card game port and CH analog not-pro pedals thru a Radio Shack USB Game Port Adapter (model 26-164, @$8) into a USB slot with a second JS into the Y.  

Calibrate both in windows then go to AH clipboard.  I did the "normal" thing with my primary stick then chose "USB ADAPTOR" from the "select controller" drop down menu and set the rudder pedals only as the Z-axis and calibrated them.  I then re-chose my primary JS in the drop down menu.

Lo and behold, functioning rudder pedals on one Z-axis and a slider throttle on another Z-axis.




wrngway

[Gypsy Baron]

Originally posted by bzek74
I finally installed my soundblaster gameport to use my old ch pro pedals, Im not getting and detection or anything.....Any advice aside from buying new pedals lol.

 I have my old CH ( non-pro ) pedals working with my system, along
 with my X-45.

 I use an old ( I have MANY ) joystick plugged in with the pedals.
 WinXP see's them both and I am able to calibrate them with no
 problem, independant of the X-45.

 Hey...Hia Wrongway....good to "see" you!

   =GB=

[Jag34]

Originally posted by SkyChimp03
Oh yea i spent 29$ on one it works but couldn't get hat to work   Willing to give it away i don't need it.

I also have a pair of analog pedals, two of them, both CH. I bought a Saltek X52 and hate the twist handle. But after reading here that a adapter for gameport to USB will work, I will try anything so I won't have to spend $140.00 on  rudder pedals.
Hey SkyChimp03, if you still don't need that adapter, I could sure use it. email me and let me know.

Thanks

Jag34T

gi_tanker@hotmail.com