ok dumb question about jobs...

[nirvana]

I'd say take the job if at all possible.  There is also hotel management/retail jobs, whatever gets you by.  I know when I worked at Linens 'N' Things managers made 16+ an hour.  Targets here are starting at $8.50.

You could always take a peek at construction/carpentry though I've heard that business is always somewhat stagnant in the winter months.


Good luck!

[Mustaine]

what did I talk myself into

seems they will be calling me back tomorrow about a possible start date... dependent on the credit / criminal check.

with my only food service exp being almost 15 years ago, they seem to want to hire me.... @ about $9/hour (dunno if i will be able to pay rent and utilities on that).

seems I'm not qualified to be hired as a manager (even in training) but have to be a shift leader for 6 months first.

**** what'd I get myself into.

visions of the movie "Waiting" are floating through my head.

[storch]

Originally posted by Mustaine
what did I talk myself into

seems they will be calling me back tomorrow about a possible start date... dependent on the credit / criminal check.

with my only food service exp being almost 15 years ago, they seem to want to hire me.... @ about $9/hour (dunno if i will be able to pay rent and utilities on that).

seems I'm not qualified to be hired as a manager (even in training) but have to be a shift leader for 6 months first.

**** what'd I get myself into.

visions of the movie "Waiting" are floating through my head.

come back with a counter offer, remember you are selling your time.  if it's a take it or leave it type interview then leave it.  I've hired guys with little experience but with a good attitude and who demonstrate a strong sense self worth and self esteem.  all labor is worthy of a living wage and $9 per ain't a living wage in the US.  express to them that the minimum you will get outta bed for is $14, do it with a smile and a strut and be prepared to get to stepping through the door in search of something better.

[LePaul]

Nothing says you "have" to take the job.

[Golfer]

Check your PMs Frenchy.

[Rolex]

Everyone's circumstances are different. Where they live, how they live, the skills/experience they do or do not have, the ability or inability to display common sense and work with or manage people, even their ability to get up and show up on time for work.

Life isn't a TV show and copping an attitude is more liable to backfire on you than reward you. Here's an idea: Be yourself because that's who you have to be every day anyway.

If you like and need the job, take it. If you don't like it, but need it, take it. If you neither like, nor need it, don't take it. But, don't listen to someone telling you act like someone you are not.

And good luck to you either way!

[BlkKnit]

You earned your unemployment income.  Anyone who thinks its freeloading is thinking without the proper equipment.  I once lived almost a full year off what i had saved just so I could say "I have never been on unemployment".  Whoopdie-doo.  These days I sign up at the first opportunity.  If I can get my waiting week in without missing a full week of work, I do that.  Its my freakin money!

Nothing says you "have" to take the job.

  Actually, the employment security department may have something to say about it.  In my experience, different rules for different areas, and even for different people and careers.  Around here, just because you were making $34k doesn't mean you get to turn down a job paying $24k (or even less).  But, its also entirely possible that your statement is correct.

Bottom line (maybe) is that you have an offer on the table and are on unemployment, so they dont have to listen to any counter offers.  Couldn't hurt to try it though.

It's better to have some minor job then none at all IMO. It helps your outlook on life and makes living a bit less stressfull on you over all.

I have ask:  How is working a job you hate, for less money than you got on unemployment gonna help anyones stress levels?

Must, your askin advice from a buncha silver-spoons (not really guys, just jokin with ya ).  You need to listen to someone who has been there (and probably will be again)

Just do what feels right to you.  If you are embarrassed by your unemployment checks, then by all means, take the job.  Just dont let the negativity of some of the posts (and I think its probably not intended, but its there) drive you to a job you may not want.

[Rolex]

Have things changed? Man, I'm really getting old. Employers used to have to pay unemployement insurance; employees contributed nothing.

[Shamus]

Originally posted by Rolex
Have things changed?

No

shamus

[ROC]

Take the job.  It's always easier to Get a job if you Have one.  I won't hire anyone sitting at home waiting for the lotto or that "perfect" job.  I'm a firm believer that you build your future by Action, not hoping.

One thing you cannot change is how you are perceived.  People have work ethics that show through any resume.  If you are Skilled, Driven, Talented, Self Motivated and a go getter, then you can take Any Position at Any Job and make it work for you.  Those are the ones who succeed, those that by their own nature succeed at anything they do.

No one will hire you into a hard driving field off the couch.  Those who are looking for leaders want those who can take the odd ball situation and make it work.  If you can't do that at a Pizza Joint, how can you do that in a Real Job?  Resumes are Worthless.  If you want the Top Office, hire on at the mail room and Take the position.  You'd be surprised at just how many leaders know that They cannot get promoted unless they fill Their position.  I Beg People every day to take My job so I can have time to do the next level up.  

When I was in Jr. High, I lived in a Very Small Town, my mom sent me to the Only grocery store in town..with Food Stamps.  I'm 44 in a month from today, and since I was 14, Never have I held a dime in my hand I did not earn my self from that day forward.

Pay into Unemployment?  That's a feel good thing, it's the cost of my pride, sorry, not worth the amount of the check.  I Can work, so I Will work.

[SunKing]

Originally posted by Mustaine
what did I talk myself into

seems they will be calling me back tomorrow about a possible start date... dependent on the credit / criminal check.

with my only food service exp being almost 15 years ago, they seem to want to hire me.... @ about $9/hour (dunno if i will be able to pay rent and utilities on that).

seems I'm not qualified to be hired as a manager (even in training) but have to be a shift leader for 6 months first.

**** what'd I get myself into.

visions of the movie "Waiting" are floating through my head.

HA try Clerks 2.

[Slash27]

Originally posted by storch
did the job thing for a bit.  I was given a golden opportunity which was my lifetime's lucky break.  

Some of us are still on the look out for that lucky break.


Not that Im whining about my course in life, I just wish it payed batter.

[eagl]

A friend of mine was in the "fast food business" and they held out that management carrot for about 4 years.

Bottom line - Take the $9/hr for now but if they don't put you on the management track after doing your 6 months of "new guy" time, then you need to find another job because they're never going to promote you.  They'll try to say "no openings right now but maybe in a few months..."  If they want you to go to management track, they need to prove it by sending you to manager school and putting you in the job, complete with the paycheck and benefits.  If they don't actually give you the management job, then they don't intend to and are going to try to string you along as a shift leader forever.

My friend figured this out after 4 years and ended up working for GEICO.

Oh yea... While you're doing this, you need to at the very least take a class or two at the local community college.  There should be tuition assistance programs and very low rate loans for people in your situation.  That way you can take your work experience and college credits to your next job interview and show that you're a better candidate than the other guy without even "shift lead" experience and zero college credits.  Work plus school sucks, but...

At a minimum, a bachelors degree is worth another $10,000 per year for your entire working life.  This is a gross approximation but it's the low-end of the average benefit you should get from a degree.  Many well paid non-college-grads will tell you you don't need a degree, but those people represent the 1% who found a niche that pays well without the degree.  For the other 99%, your entire life will be easier if you have that degree.

Anyone scoffing at the very real and measurable benefits of a college degree is either in a niche job, in a situation that is not representative of how MOST jobs work, or bitterly jealous of the fact that a co-worker who does their exact same job but has a degree will get paid up to 20% more than they do and they want you to screw up your life the same way they screwed up theirs.  Don't pass up the opportunity, get a degree in something halfway useful.  Even a bachelors in a pure liberal arts subject is better than nothing.

If you already have a bachelors degree, then you're aiming low.  Way low.

[cpxxx]

As Eagl says, best bet is to get a degree or a qualification of some sort. You should see some of the numbties in many jobs getting paid decent money just because they have a degree. As one Engineer put it to a colleague. 'I spent three years in college drinking beer and having fun with a bit of study in between. That's the only reason, I'm paid more than you'.

I was out of work for seven months once. It was soul destroying. At the time there was no work for someone like me. I couldn't get a badly paid job because they at the time required experience.  I had no qualms about taking the dole. I paid enough in social welfare payments over the years to earn it. It was just my money returning.

At the moment, the job I have is almost as soul destroying as having no job. The only reason I stay here is because the hours suit me at the moment while I prepare for the next job hopefully.  however it reminds how far I've fallen in my late forties. I got married and moved to her native city thinking I would get a comparable job to the one I had.  Instead, I am on less money working for morons.

That's the risk of taking just any job. But at least it motivates me to work harder to improve myself. But sometimes the morale plummets.

[BlkKnit]

Originally posted by Rolex
Have things changed? Man, I'm really getting old. Employers used to have to pay unemployement insurance; employees contributed nothing.

Hi, benefits?  theres a reason its there, and its not so you can go take the first terrible job available.  If your employer who paid the unemployment insurance doesn't want you on unemployment then I guess they shouldn't be laying you off.  I dont see why everyone seems to be on the side of taking a crappy job instead of recieving what you have earned.  

Now, eventually that unemployment will no longer be available and before that time you gotta find a job, but the whole point is that being on unemployment allows you time to find a job.  Take the first crappy job that comes along and see how much time there is to find a good job.  Take that job and tell me how you feel in six months.  

BTW I'm old too.  Too old to be looking at a low end job with no future just to make me feel like a "contributor to society".  Unemployment insurance allows people a chance to make a carreer move or lateral change.  No one will manage that sitting on the couch (as ROC puts it), and if you are an employer who looks down on anyone on unemployment or counts that as a strike against them, guess what, thats a form of discrimination.

Following 9-11 I was without a steady job for almost a year.  I took a lateral move that paid less than my old job and that I had to drive 2 1/2 hours to get to (Mena to Little Rock, check yer map).  I dont feel the least bit like a lesser human being because of it and they did not look down thier nose at me for being on unemployment.  They brought me in at near the bottom of the pay scale because they didn't need any sheetmetal men.  I was a beginner Hawker mechanic and I enjoyed it, learned some new stuff and have had 2 other jobs since then.  If/when I get laid off from my current job I will file for unemployment and if you want to walk around with your nose in the air over it........I hope it gets rained in!:p