"At least I don't have a kid in Iraq"

[storch]

Originally posted by rpm
If the same thing happened in 1944 and she said "Thank God I don't have a son in the Pacific" it would have been immediately interpreted as nothing more than her saying there are more important things in life than material possessions.

But, no. In the fear mongering, neocon, Rove-spun world we live in today she has just spit in the face of a soldier. It's pathetic that you chickenhawks will grab at any straw to twist a message of humility into a political hate message. Suddenly she's Jane Fonda shooting down Blackhawks and making IEDs. You'll do anything to turn this into propaganda. One problem, you didn't check your facts to back up your arguement that she does not support the troops.

You might want to count how many USO tours Suzanne has made and how much actual hands on support of troops in the field she had given before you go putting words in her mouth. I'm sure you would be embarrassed if you compared it to your own.

Anyone here have an award from the troops for their service? Suzanne did, but it was burned in the fire.
Suzanne, it was only a house. It's not like you have a child in Iraq.

there is no way you are really this much of stark raving foaming at the mouth limpwristed tree hugging liberal lunatic.  you're fishing.  I call BS on your arse.  btw how are you doing health wise?

[Vudak]

Originally posted by Maverick
Hey RPM,

How many lines can you post here like that before the foam from your mouth obscures the screen and you have to wipe it?

It's not like he doesn't have a point...  At least if the claims about her USO work etc. check out.  I for one don't care enough to check them

[rpm]

http://155.7.40.58/americasupportsyou/Content.aspx?ID=26873128

July 12, 2005 - Col. Tracey Nicholson, Fort Hamilton, N.Y., garrison commander, presents actress and former USO tour entertainer Suzanne Somers an Army commander’s award for “Patriotic Civilian Service” in recognition of her support for Soldiers worldwide. Photo by U.S. Marine Corps Cpl. Lameen Witter

I'm doing well, except when I see some lunacy like this thread.

[Yeager]

she has done alot of USO work...she received awards for "Patriotic Civilian Service" from our military.

Although she has been critical of the Bush/Cheney war of aggression in Irag, you also need to understand she has just been through a traumatic experience what with her multi- million dollar uber mansion burning down and all, and might be a just a bit over emotional.

See definitely supports the men and women in our armed forces, plus... I'd hit it

[Neubob]

Originally posted by cav58d
My house burned down...I lost my job.  My car was broken into, and my girlfriend has been cheating on me with my father.  I'm being investigated for credit card fraud, and i've got a terrible rash on my genitals....But hey.  At least I don't have a kid in Iraq.

Cav, I've seen answering machines with a greater potential for critical thought than you've shown in this thread.

She didn't mean to insult the troops. The fact that she is blonde, heavily made up, and a resident of Malibu doesn't mean that every reference she makes to Iraq is a direct attack on every man, woman, child and dog involved in the war effort.

Personally, I admire her stiocism given what just happened to her. She lost her home, and even if she won't be sleeping in a box tonight, she's still missing things that are irreplaceable, as any of us would in the same situation. I defy anybody here to be as even-keeled having faced the same set of circumstances. Liberal or not, rich or poor, she showed some courage. Maybe for just a second, that courage should be allowed to shine through the despised veneer.

This tendancy to jump on anybody whom you find potentially distasteful, no matter what the context or factual background, is, quite frankly, absurd. Take yourself off of autopilot and come to terms with the fact that your first impression isn't always the correct one, much less the only one.

[namvet]

RPM hit the nail on the head.

[Debonair]

i'd've LMAO if it'd been "i'm still better off than john rutter"

[Shifty]

Originally posted by Neubob
With all due respect to you and your sons, and everyone else in harms way, Shifty, I have to ask you why you interpreted her quote as a shot at the war effort?
 

Neubob.

You ask a good question. Maybe it wasn't a shot at the war effort, by another Hollywood primadonna. That could very well be her sincere feelings. I'm so used to seeing crap coming from Hollywood types and theres a very real chance I'm over sensitive on this subject. I should probably not even hang out in the O club.

Trying to give you an honest answer............. I don't why I feel that way. I do know I hear more bashing of the effort than I do support from the red carpet and  sun glasses crowd.

[Brenjen]

I support the war, the troops; & not just my friends & family who are there. I don't worry about them because worrying won't help them or me. I don't have children in harms way & that would make all the difference imo. The feelings a normal parent have for their child are so strong from worry to pride that it's hard for other people to understand if they don't have children themselves, but...I do think the Sommers quote was mis-interpreted.

  It seemed less of a bash & more of a "it could be worse" even though there is an under current of anti-war sentiment nearly everywhere a person looks today. It's going to take another calamity of 9/11 proportions to pull us all together & get the flags out for another 6 months. At least I know where to find my flag when the day comes; it's hanging in front of my house.

[lazs2]

flatbar... I live near frisco and believe me...  I would rather more like cav lived there and less like who do.

she could have said "at least I don't have a son who owns a sport bike"  it would have been more to the point...  A young man is much more likely to get maimed or killed on a sport bike than in iraq.  She could have said...  At least I don't have a gay son..  the chances of getting aids for gays in America is much higher than getting killed or injured in iraq.    She coulda said...  At least I don't have a son living in washington dc... the chances of... well.. you get the point..

I believe that she said what she said because of her distaste for the war more than any worse case scenario kind of thing.

lazs

[sluggish]

Sommers used a bad personal experience as an opportunity to make a political statement.  Her house burned down so she needed to remind us of a quagmire that her arch nemesis has gotten us into...

Some like to say she was just making an "it could be worse" analogy but deep down you all know what she's really saying is "at least my son won't be killed in a hopeless war I don't believe in.”

[lazs2]

Yep... I really do get the impression that she is saying that if her son died on a sport bike it would at least be an honorable and useful death as opposed to a wasted death like the soldiers in iraq.

lazs

[Neubob]

I'm getting the impression that this is just another example of people hearing exactly what they want to, based on their political beliefs. Either way, we're all completely certain of our conclusion, and without any further evidence, are ready to convict or acquit. We're all human, we're all guilty of it.

[JB88]

she is USO.  i doubt she was taking a dig at the war effort.  in fact, i would interpret it as expressing her sympathies towards the mothers because they probably express their feelings to her due to her role.

while i can appreciate that those who have children there are probably wired for sound on the issue, i take no comfort in those who do not who externalise their great unhappyness with the world by projecting it on others.

we all want stars.  we make them.  and then, like children, we either destroy them or forget them.

or would it be better to say that she could be wasting her time and effort on a cause that appreciates her talents and her efforts?

sigh.

88

[SFRT - Frenchy]

I've eard a lot of celeb not supporting the war, but supporting the troops. Sadly, to many, that translate in "not supporting the war is disrespecting the troops".

On an another note, how someone could see evil in Susan's comment is beyond me. There got to be more positive way for people to chanel their energy that neatpicking a celeb's quote, turn it upsidedown, and get all bend out of shape.