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Offline Krusty

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« on: January 09, 2007, 04:00:33 PM »
I'm surprised nobody else has done this one. We had 2-3 of them before the 109s were revamped. Anyways, if I've made any errors or snafus please let me know and I'll fix it asap. I think I've got this one done properly, though.

This is his first 109f-4, Werk Nr. 8693.







I'll wait for any feedback before submitting it, just to be safe. I'm surprised nobody else wanted to do this one, so I went ahead and did it.

EDIT: The shadow on the elevators is a trick of the light

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 04:07:29 PM »
I personally think it looks awesome, I just don't know how to look past the skin towards the details.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 10:38:15 PM »
on the cowl MG's rusty would there rarely be any evidence of powder discharge, or would they clean it off regularly to prevent corrosion?

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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 01:23:18 AM »
I've put stains inside the gun troughs, but you don't see much staining on actual 109 photos. I think they cleaned it off because it would blow back into the wind screen. It wouldn't be a thick mucky layer, but they'd want their pilots to see as well as possible.

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2007, 11:13:21 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 05:22:36 PM »
Looks awfully pristine for a desert environment, not alot of chipping in evidence.. ;)
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2007, 05:43:40 PM »
The color looks so rich... i would almost prefer a more faded/washed out look from the desert sun.

But WTF do i know?  It's beautiful Krusty. :aok

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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2007, 10:43:26 AM »
whats that red speck in the iron cross on the starboard side?
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2007, 03:32:34 PM »
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whats that red speck in the iron cross on the starboard side?


I believe its a marker for an access panel where personnel used to be able to access and service the radio on the plane...

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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2007, 07:23:16 PM »
It's a red cross, because there's a first aid kit in there.

It's got some basic fading, splotching, and wear on the leading edges and such. I can boost those layers and post some more screenshots if you like?

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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2007, 08:00:39 PM »
ohh now i see the cross shape

god forbid the guy cut his finger in the plane and has to hop out get some sort of stick and grab it from back there


that is why when i fly my 109 i keep a couple of my flinstones band-aids in my pocket :D

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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2007, 05:25:35 PM »
That's a really nice looking skin Krusty. Not sure about amount of weathering, how long would this aircraft have been in the desert as its represented here?

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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2007, 11:22:23 AM »
Sorry, been too busy to reply or tweak the skin. I'll play with it this weekend.

Well, Greebo: Long enough to have got 50 kills on it :P

I now agree it needs more wear and tear. But I don't want to over-do it. They did maintain these planes fairly well (the elite fighter pilots got the best treatment, it almost seems like)

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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2007, 12:02:51 PM »
Krusty, the only thing I can see is maybe the exhaust stain on the fuselage could be a little more faded and splotchy. That's a great looking skin:aok



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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2007, 12:14:54 PM »
There are two pictures of what purports to be his first F4 in "Bf109 Aces of North Africa and the Mediterranean" by Jerry Scutts  (Osprey Aircraft of the Aces #2) pages 78 and 79.  Its werk # is reported as 12 593.  Also lots of good shots of JG27 109s for reference I recommend it to you Krusty.
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