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Offline Schatzi

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« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2007, 03:32:28 AM »
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Sorry Schatzi, he's right... Back in AH-I you had to be on the ground to exit.  End Sortie from Chutes started in AHII I believe.



LoL, no need to be sorry.... I was just sure that the whole thing had NOT been changed in the last two years. I was just "surprised" that hed bring it up that long after the fact.
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« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2007, 03:33:45 AM »
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Possibly the best reason I've ever heard for bailing. However if you do do this please don't .ef untill you've landed on the ground. Stealing fun is worse than stealing kills.




Oh, OK. I wasnt aware of that. Ill make a point to fly... pardon float, to you fullest enjoyment in the future :).
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« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2007, 06:48:51 AM »
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Speaking as a "noob" here.... Im not sure whats wrong about bailing and exiting flight? Its the quickest way back to tower and you still get the kill credit.....
Simply put... It would slow the cycle of bombers on a target. If you had to ride the chute down or go splat on the ground many people would think twice about taking bombers up, dropping their load, bailing and repeating the cycle.

Personally I hate tracking down a bomber group and having them bail the moment they see me. Out of range of both my guns and the prox kill. It's happened so many times I can't count them all.

And in old AH if you bailed and were smart, you didn't need to ride it down from 30k. I don't think ANYONE who's ever actually jumped out of a plane opened their chute at 20-30k. So in AH if you did open it that high, you deserved the long ride down.
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« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2007, 06:55:31 AM »
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Simply put... It would slow the cycle of bombers on a target. If you had to ride the chute down or go splat on the ground many people would think twice about taking bombers up, dropping their load, bailing and repeating the cycle.


I am afraid they would adapt quickly. They just do not open the chute and you will be back in tower almost as fast as before.
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« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2007, 07:00:48 AM »
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I am afraid they would adapt quickly. They just do not open the chute and you will be back in tower almost as fast as before.
The the simple fix would be don't allow someone to bail from a bomber until the bomber has taken damage from the enemy. That stops self-inflicted damage such as ripping wings.
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« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2007, 07:04:37 AM »
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The the simple fix would be don't allow someone to bail from a bomber until the bomber has taken damage from the enemy. That stops self-inflicted damage such as ripping wings.


Counter measure to this: Just auger.
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« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2007, 07:07:45 AM »
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Counter measure to this: Just auger.
LOL, auger from 30k. I'd be in favor of that. :)

In any case they receive a "Death" rather than a bail or capture.
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« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2007, 07:20:29 AM »
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How long have you been playing? It wasn't that long ago that you couldn't end sortie untill you were on the ground.


Its been like that for the last year at least
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« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2007, 07:25:52 AM »
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LOL, auger from 30k. I'd be in favor of that. :)



Hehe, yes that would take some time. But: Maybe your experience differs, but most, if not all, of the bombīnībailers I have seen do not bother to climb to such altitudes. If one has the patience to fly for 30 min to gain alt and get to target, he will probably have no problems flying 15-20 mins or so back to a friendly base.
For BīnīB people, turnaround speed is cruical.

I wish I had any foolproof solution...
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« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2007, 07:33:32 AM »
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it's a way to punish score potatos.

Agreed.  Just another small way to push back against score-conscious flying.

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« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2007, 08:02:40 AM »
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Ditto.

Hypothetically speaking, should a change be made requiring one to ride their bail to the ground, folks would just not open the chute till near the ground. I doubt many folks could hit a body dropping at 200 fps nor give up alt just to kill a bailer at 800 ft.

Bah!
Actually that's exactly the way it was and it was fun. The score concious bailer knew that if he opened his chute too high he'd be a sitting duck. And the airplane pilot knew the risk of diving down from a furball chasing a freefalling bailer. You might be surprised at how many of use have killed freefalling bailers. They're probably easier to kill than when the chute is open because you can chase them down.

Anyway you slice it, the bailers are getting off scot free now. And the game has gotten just that much more boring and, if nothing else, less realistic.

BTW it isn't possible to kill steal buy shooting a chute pilot.
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« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2007, 08:34:01 AM »
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Actually that's exactly the way it was and it was fun. The score concious bailer knew that if he opened his chute too high he'd be a sitting duck. And the airplane pilot knew the risk of diving down from a furball chasing a freefalling bailer. You might be surprised at how many of use have killed freefalling bailers. They're probably easier to kill than when the chute is open because you can chase them down.

Anyway you slice it, the bailers are getting off scot free now. And the game has gotten just that much more boring and, if nothing else, less realistic.

BTW it isn't possible to kill steal buy shooting a chute pilot.


Lordy if thats the main reason you have fun....ummm :confused:
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« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2007, 09:30:57 AM »
.ef is bad.
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« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2007, 12:21:11 PM »
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You should consider bailing out.

Just don't use the .ef exploit.


You're calling it an 'exploit'?  This, added to your rants in the HO thread, have convinced me you're just a troll looking for a slapfight on the BBS.
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« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2007, 01:03:19 PM »
Since there is no PW or Suave on score page.

He is either a former player turned troll or a shade tard.

Either way it's still lame.



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