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Offline BlckMgk

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« on: January 18, 2007, 01:22:49 PM »
There had sparked a discussion in the USA vs Iran war that China was a bigger threat than most people give them. Underestimating them will be bad and this goes to show you they are working quickly to militiraize.

http://www.aviationweek.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/CHI01177.xml

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Chinese Test Anti-Satellite Weapon  
By Craig Covault/Aviation Week & Space Technology  
01/17/2007 07:45:59 PM  
 
U. S. intelligence agencies believe China performed a successful anti-satellite (asat) weapons test at more than 500 mi. altitude Jan. 11 destroying an aging Chinese weather satellite target with a kinetic kill vehicle launched on board a ballistic missile.

The Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency, NASA and other government organizations have a full court press underway to obtain data on the alleged test, Aviation Week & Space Technology will report in its Jan. 22 issue.

If the test is verified it will signify a major new Chinese military capability.

Neither the Office of the U. S. Secretary of Defense nor Air Force Space Command would comment on the attack, which followed by several months the alleged illumination of a U. S. military spacecraft by a Chinese ground based laser.

China's growing military space capability is one major reason the Bush Administration last year formed the nation's first new National Space Policy in ten years, Aviation Week will report.

"The policy is designed to ensure that our space capabilities are protected in a time of increasing challenges and threats," says Robert G. Joseph, Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security at the U. S. State Dept. " This is imperative because space capabilities are vital to our national security and to our economic well being," Joseph said in an address on the new space policy at the National Press Club in Washington D. C.

Details emerging from space sources indicate that the Chinese Feng Yun 1C (FY-1C) polar orbit weather satellite launched in 1999 was attacked by an asat system launched from or near the Xichang Space Center.

The attack is believe to have occurred as the weather satellite flew at 530 mi. altitude 4 deg. west of Xichang located in Sichuan province. Xichang is a major Chinese space launch center.

Although intelligence agencies must complete confirmation of the test, the attack is believed to have occurred at about 5:28 p.m. EST Jan. 11. U. S. intelligence agencies had been expecting some sort of test that day, sources said.

U. S. Air Force Defense Support Program missile warning satellites in geosynchronous orbit would have detected the Xichang launch of the asat kill vehicle and U. S. Air Force Space Command monitored the FY-1C orbit both before and after the exercise.

The test, if it occurred as envisioned by intelligence source, could also have left considerable space debris in an orbit used by many different satellites.

USAF radar reports on the Chinese FY-1C spacecraft have been posted once or twice daily for years, but those reports jumped to about 4 times per day just before the alleged test.

The USAF radar reports then ceased Jan. 11, but then appeared for a day showing "signs of orbital distress". The reports were then halted again. The Air Force radars may well be busy cataloging many pieces of debris, sources said.

Although more of a "policy weapon" at this time, the test shows that the Chinese military can threaten the imaging reconnaissance satellites operated by the U. S., Japan, Russia, Israel and Europe.

The Republic of China also operates a small imaging spacecraft that can photograph objects as small as about 10 ft. in size, a capability good enough to count cruise missiles pointed at Taiwan from the Chinese mainland. The Taiwanese in the past have also leased capability on an Israeli reconnaissance satellite.
 
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Crazy..

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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2007, 04:28:49 PM »
Things like this are over looked often & have been for 20 years. The Chinese have been spending like mad these past two decades on modernization, granted they were so far behind that it's going to take some time going forward to complete but my god what's going to happen when they finish? :(


The muzzies are a bother & they are dangerous but it's those quiet, introverted Chinese that scare me. Will they "invade" the U.S., I doubt it, we are too strong for sea borne invasion to work. Will they push us around in their neighborhood & overtake us economically? Absolutely. And soon too.

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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2007, 04:52:12 PM »
It wasn't a laser.

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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2007, 04:54:06 PM »
And based on the fact of what Mini-D points out from the article, how hard would it to be place a explosive vehicle into orbit on a rocket, and detonate it near another orbiting object? Certainly not as hard as an airborne lazer that could do the same thing with nothing more than good old fashion American engineering and a 747 as a lazer launch platform. ;)

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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2007, 04:56:20 PM »
We must not care too much, where as we fund it.

Shouldn't you alarmists be talking about global warming or something?
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2007, 04:58:45 PM »
With satellites, you don't need an explosion. You just need to throw a bunch of ballbearings in the way and let kinetic energy do the damage.

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2007, 05:07:59 PM »
It is well and good that we have enemies, lest we concentrate too much on each other.  Unless of course your a liberal, then there are no number of enemies that can discourage the urge to eat ones self.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2007, 05:08:01 PM »
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With satellites, you don't need an explosion. You just need to throw a bunch of ballbearings in the way and let kinetic energy do the damage.
Good point.

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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2007, 05:14:05 PM »
Sounds just like the ASAT system the USAF developed in the 80s

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2007, 05:16:51 PM »
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Shouldn't you alarmists be talking about global warming or something?


Naw, it's going to cause a mini-ice age & I love the snow....

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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2007, 05:25:23 PM »
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Sounds just like the ASAT system the USAF developed in the 80s



I recall back when china launched their commie-nauts into space people laughed at how China caught up with 1960's space technology.

It looks like they made twenty year jump in space technology in three years.

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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2007, 05:35:10 PM »
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It looks like they made twenty year jump in space technology in three years.



So wait....They managed to land some guys on the moon, send multiple probes to the far reaches of the solar system, and build a re-usable shuttle fleet and here I am thinking that all they did was shoot down an old satellite, under conditions whose details were never confirmed...

I really need to read the papers more often.

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2007, 05:45:30 PM »
so should president pelosie surrender to the chinese now?

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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2007, 05:46:17 PM »
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So wait....They managed to land some guys on the moon, send multiple probes to the far reaches of the solar system, and build a re-usable shuttle fleet and here I am thinking that all they did was shoot down an old satellite, under conditions whose details were never confirmed...

I really need to read the papers more often.




Yes...yes you do.

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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2007, 05:49:51 PM »
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Yes...yes you do.


So wait, they really DID all that stuff?????

Or are you taking one very narrow example of their progress and concluding that they've:

 'made a twenty year jump in space technology in three years'
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