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Offline titanic3

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« on: January 18, 2007, 02:59:53 PM »
what do u ugys think is the best bomber? B24 or Lancaster. i dunno which to decide. Lanc have awsome bombload but weak defensive armament, B24 have weaker(but still good) bombload and awsome defensive armament. i want to use those 1000lb bomb but B24 can only hold like 6x 1000lb. so which 1?:confused:

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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2007, 03:13:10 PM »
Do you really have to decide? Like in fighters, there is no "best". Evaluate what the mission requires, then choose your bomber. Is survivabillity most important? Take B17. Need a bit more bomboad? Take B24s. Need massive payload and environment is not too dangerous (or you are willing to take some time to climb very high): Lancs. Quick porking runs? Maybe a Ki-67. Or take Bostons if you have a deathwish... ;)

And 1000lbs are not always the best choice, it depends  on the job to do...
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2007, 03:18:08 PM »
I agree with Lusche, it depends on the mission.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2007, 04:50:48 PM »
ok uhmmm thxi guess for the advice

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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2007, 05:15:06 PM »
Lanc does carry the mostest, but like you said, poor defensive armament.  Got to survive over target to do some good.  All other bombers faster to altitude and target than the Lanc is.  And I prefer to land kills in other bombers, than bomb and bail (or burn) in a Lanc.  

Most Lancs I see dropping ord are using a shotgun method, sometimes level, sometimes diving.... which is a waste of ord considering how accurate bombing can be done in the war arenas.

Consider your target, the bomb load you will need for it, and select the plane.

I tend to run B-17's with 500 #'s these days to go after strats from altitude (10K up to 25K, single salvo), but still able to drop a hangar with salvo 2 or 3, or hit a town, if needed.  

If I'm actually going after hangars, or HQ , as part of larger mission, then it's the B-24's with 1K's.  

Killing a CV, I'll lift Ki-67's with 8-100kg eggs or a flight of Ar234's with 3-500kgs or even JU-88's just for fun.  (and Ki-61 makes a good dive bomber with it's 2-250kg bombs for a small group, and can fight afterwards well enough.)

Going after GV's... B-26's with 500 #'s.  Or JU-88's if we control the sky.

Knocking out radar towers or ord at many bases, Ki-67's with 8-100kg's again, or 15-50kgs with salvo 2.  Nice penetration bomber.

Trying to level a strat factory with not too high chance of being intercepted, JU-88's with max bomb load.


There are more options than Lanc or B24.

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2007, 07:01:32 PM »
B-17F is the best bomber EVER. In the game, take the B-17G hands down. Shell take more punishment, and still get you home than the B-24 EVER will. In real life and in AH. (I know a pilot who flew both B-24s AND B-17s, and prefers the 17).


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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2007, 07:12:21 PM »
if u need to bomb and get the hell outta their then that Ar-234 might be the ticket:aok
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2007, 07:12:30 PM »
My favourite of the lot is the Boston; if all you want to do is knock out the radar, a single Boston with 4x250lb is plenty. I drop in salvos of two, one on the radar and a second on any other target that passes under the bombsight.

And then off and away. Most aircraft except the Hurricane will gain on you, if they choose; but they would gain on you in any other bomber, although at a slightly slower rate. You have a certain amount of forward firepower if you are bold enough to use it.

I think of the Ki-67 as a higher-altitude equivalent of the Boston, with a similar top speed but 7k higher. Against it, the Ki-67 has no pilot guns, and a smaller bombload than the Boston.

The Boston is basically defenceless except for its level speed, and its speed in a dive. The Mosquito is superior in this respect but it doesn't have a bombsight, so you have to dive or shallow-divebomb, in which case lots of other aircraft could do the same with less risk.

As for the heavies, I have an irrational soft spot for the Ju88. It is black. And I like the bomb load - the mixture of 2x2x500kg plus 60x50kg is handy, although it's useless if you can't get it to the target. Against any opposition you are dead meat unless you are an exceptional pilot, in which case you would do even better in any other bomber.

If it's just Lancaster vs B24, take the B24. The Lancaster's bomb load is unnecessarily large and it cannot play guitar.

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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2007, 07:13:50 PM »
Many Pilots perfered the B-24 for its bomb load, speed, and range. But when it came to flying over Germany, they perfered the B-17 as it would bring you home, in any condition.

I take up a bomber depending on its mission. Most of the time I take up the 17 just cuz I know I'll make it home.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2007, 07:15:34 PM »
yea but i think 17's have a weakspot to 163's chewing on their 6
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2007, 07:18:55 PM »
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I think of the Ki-67 as a higher-altitude equivalent of the Boston, with a similar top speed but 7k higher. Against it, the Ki-67 has no pilot guns, and a smaller bombload than the Boston.


Do not forget that nasty 20mm top gun the Ki-67 has :D
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2007, 07:36:34 PM »
ok thx for tips guys. hope to meet u in 8 player. XD:cool:

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2007, 01:34:57 PM »
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Do not forget that nasty 20mm top gun the Ki-67 has :D


Oh... I *like* it when they forget about that gun up there.  Nothing better than sniping some noob at your high 5 to 7 position whose lining up to attack your Ki-67 formation.

Although one of the best "dogfights" I ever had was when my flight of JU-88's was attacked by a flight of Ki-67's.  Both of us returning from runs.  A few wide turns (JU-88's maneuverability helped a lot here), a few passes, a couple dives for speed.......  Eventually he broke off with 1 remaining damaged Ki-67 to my 2 shot-up JU-88's.  It was classic.

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2007, 08:02:21 PM »
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yea but i think 17's have a weakspot to 163's chewing on their 6


But a B-24 can activate its hyperdrive and go to ludicrus speed to outrun them right? B-17G will take hits that would set a '24 afire and not even flinch.

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2007, 08:04:14 PM »
B-24's have hyperdrive?:O :rolleyes:

nah thats called warping,and its annoying:furious :furious
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