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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2007, 10:38:07 PM »
NK, because they can FLY baby!




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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2007, 10:56:24 PM »
White Men can't jump, Black Men can jump, but North Korean man can fly.
Man I wish I could jump that high, or fly like that. Are you sure thats North Korea?
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2007, 11:06:42 PM »
Well shoot, they can fly huh. I bet they never heard of a couple little games we got here. We call them skeet and trap shooting.  :t

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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2007, 12:14:02 AM »
i ment japaneezes
bad typos, sry

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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2007, 05:07:23 AM »
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Why would anyone think Isreal trains their soldiers the best?   I suspect their average soldier doesn't measure up to the average soldier of many countries.


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They couldn't even kick Hezbollah out of Lebenon.  Isreali army didn't accomplish one of its goals during their summer war.  Hezbollah kept firing rockets and still has those 2 Isreali soldiers.  


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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2007, 05:14:41 AM »
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The reason I choosed Isreal first is because all Isrealies, Men and Women must serve for 2 years. This means that every individual is trained to fire a weapon, and are trained for combat when ever it strikes Isreal. (To make this easier Few like Isreal so, Isreal people train hard to defend themselves)


Strange then that you didn't include the Russians in your list. They also have to serve for two years. Granted it is only the men, but then there are about 60-70 million Russian men.

Also I find it curious (but not entirely disagreeable) that you chose a conscript army as #1.

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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2007, 06:19:32 AM »
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They couldn't even kick Hezbollah out of Lebenon.  Isreali army didn't accomplish one of its goals during their summer war.  Hezbollah kept firing rockets and still has those 2 Isreali soldiers.  
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2007, 07:04:18 AM »
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They couldn't even kick Hezbollah out of Lebenon.  Isreali army didn't accomplish one of its goals during their summer war.  Hezbollah kept firing rockets and still has those 2 Isreali soldiers.  


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You're saying that as if 'kicking' a large group of highly-embedded, locally-integrated guerillas out of anywhere is easy. Many of these rockets are produced in basements, then fired from nearby wooded areas. To 'kick them out' would mean to torch much of the country, combatant and non-combatant alike--which the Israelis are physically capable of doing.

Cite one example of a modern army dislodging and disarming a substantial and locally-supported guerilla army.

I might be crazy for suggesting this, but in making these proclaimations, you might want to broaden your in-depth, scientific analysis to periods of time not limited to last year.

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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2007, 07:28:11 AM »
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Which countries do you think trains their soldiers to the best of there capabilities. Not strenght of force in numbers, but the strenght of each individual soldier.


I'd say the US Marine Corps, but they're not soldiers.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2007, 07:37:28 AM »
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I'd say the US Marine Corps, but they're not soldiers.


What about the SEALs, or other special forces?

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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2007, 07:41:27 AM »
Seals aren't soldiers either...
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2007, 07:55:05 AM »
What are they?

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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2007, 07:56:18 AM »
If marines and seals aren't soldiers ... what are they? Sailors?

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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2007, 08:04:04 AM »
I'd rather be adequately well trained using our equipment within our networked force than super highly trained in almost any other nation's military.  The edge we get from our tactics/techniques/procedures and our gadgets is enormous.  Not sucking helps, but it's the system and processes that give the US military it's real capability.

The added bonus is that although sometimes our individual combat skills sometimes aren't the absolute sharpest in the world, we routinely train each and every military member to make decisions that in other forces are made at higher ranks.  In the US military, instead of making every troop a ninja master of hand to hand combat we try to give every private enough training and information to make decisions that used to take an NCO.  That sort of power extends to all levels of the military and it can be very effective when the fog of war prevents more than vague objectives from being disseminated to every troop.  Instead of sitting on their butts waiting for orders, they can work out their own best way to achieve the briefed objective while trusting that everyone else is doing the same thing.  

The only drawback lately however, is that technology now allows very high ranking officers to take a virtual look over the shoulder of individual soldiers/airmen and influence the actions of individuals.  It is pretty much contrary to every bit of progress we've made towards centralized command and de-centralized execution in the last 100 years, but the lure of the command center predator porn is hard to resist.
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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2007, 01:42:05 PM »
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Thats is exactly why.

The reason I choosed Isreal first is because all Isrealies, Men and Women must serve for 2 years.

It's 3 years for all men, and 3 years for women volunteering for "fighting" jobs.

Half the population doesn't serve though for various excuses.
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