Author Topic: Can't Connect (Read 1800 times)

skernsk · « **Reply #15 on:** June 05, 2000, 05:58:00 PM »

I like the idea of changing the arenas ---- I use the TA and MA so far I hae not flown in the MA.
I will chat with wolf37 -- I talked to him before -- nice guy

skernsk · « **Reply #16 on:** June 06, 2000, 09:59:00 PM »

Hmmm still no response from HTCreations?????

3 reboots to get in tonight.

[This message has been edited by skernsk (edited 06-06-2000).]

Pyro · « **Reply #17 on:** June 07, 2000, 03:52:00 PM »

We're trying to figure this out and all I know so far is that the problem seems isolated to Sprint Canada. The kicker is that Rosco is able to connect via his brother's machine with the same ISP, so the problem seems to be a combination of factors.

The difference between the main arena and the other arenas that is most likely causing this is the amount of information that is being sent. When you first come into the arena, you have to be updated with a bunch of information and the more players logged in, the more information that is sent. It appears that this extra information is somehow choking the connection and causing the failure.

Have either of you been able to find a correlation between how busy the server is and your success at logging in?

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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

rosco- · « **Reply #18 on:** June 07, 2000, 04:08:00 PM »

I have had this happen with 40 people or 90+...cant remember how many were in at the time of the libya senerio, but it didnt do it then. That would be the biggest load on any of the other arenas when I have used them. I cant say I really payed much attention to that, but I will from now on. Ill start keeping a record.
I know in the mornings my time "EST" there is usually around 20 to 40 people. IN evenings its 60+ and it doesnt seem to happen more often one way or the other.

Maby its time to yet again switch isp's...

skernsk · « **Reply #19 on:** June 07, 2000, 09:44:00 PM »

Lately there are at least 80 people online so its hard to say. I find that from about 4:00pmMTN time till midnight -- no problem. But in the morning it almost never works. Rosco if you get disco'd after midnight do you have a hard time getting back in? I usually can't get back to the MA if I get disco'ed after midnight

Thanks for the response Pyro -- and keep us informed

Skuzzy · « **Reply #20 on:** June 12, 2000, 11:17:00 AM »

Sorry for taking so long. I only casually check this particular forum.

Please post traceroute information, to both the main (216.91.192.15) and alt arenas (206.149.40.141) to the Internet forum. I will be happy to look at that and see if anything glaring sticks out.

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Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
President, AppLink Corp.
http://www.applink.net
skuzzy@applink.net

skernsk · « **Reply #21 on:** June 13, 2000, 02:35:00 PM »

Rosco,
I had my mother board go this week...I ended up getting a new computer, but kept Sprint Canada as the ISP....SAME PROBLEM...CAN'T CONNECT!
So I got pissed and changed ISP's...no problems ever since!! I now know what it feels like to login whenever I want to

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rosco- · « **Reply #22 on:** June 14, 2000, 07:32:00 AM »

Glad to hear it

Im probably going to do the same thing eventually. Just havent had time to shop around for another one yet. I am in luck in one way in that although I live in the boon docks I can call Ottawa not long distance, so I have a pile of isp's to choose from.
BTW skuzzy Ill definatly post those trace results. I havent had this problem since your post, and figure there is no point in posting traceroutes when I CAN get in the arena. Sprint network was screwy for about 30 hours, not allowing me to dial out most times i tried the last couple days. Called support and got a recording saying the ottawa area was having problems, so maby whatever they did will fix things for me.

[This message has been edited by rosco- (edited 06-14-2000).]

rosco- · « **Reply #23 on:** June 14, 2000, 08:07:00 AM »

K just tried with 25 people in the main, did it again.

Report for 216.91.192.15

Analysis: Node '216.91.192.15' was found in 13 hops (TTL=243). Connections to HTTP port 80 are
being rejected.

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| Hop | Err | IP Address | Node Name | Location | ms | Graph | Network |
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| 0 | | 149.99.143.164 | spc-isp-mtl-58-6-164.sprint.ca | Montreal, QU, Canada | | | Fonorola |
| 1 | | 149.99.143.254 | spc-isp-mtl-58-6-254-Lo1.sprint.ca | Montreal, QU, Canada | 136 | -x | Fonorola |
| 2 | | 209.103.24.1 | - | ?(Canada) | 133 | -x | CallNet Enterprises Inc. |
| 3 | | 209.5.21.5 | - | ?Victoria, BC, Canada | 129 | x | Sprint Canada Inc. |
| 4 | | 204.50.128.81 | - | ?Vancouver, BC, Canada | 130 | -x | Sprint Canada Inc. |
| 5 | 1 | 144.232.173.17 | sl-gw9-nyc-2-0.sprintlink.net | New York, NY, USA | 140 | x | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 6 | | 144.232.7.93 | sl-bb10-nyc-4-0.sprintlink.net | New York, NY, USA | 137 | x | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 7 | | 144.232.13.157 | sl-bb12-nyc-9-0.sprintlink.net | New York, NY, USA | 140 | x | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 8 | | 144.232.9.70 | sl-bb12-pen-7-0.sprintlink.net | Pennsauken, NJ, USA | 146 | x- | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 9 | | 144.232.9.238 | - | ?Herndon, VA 22071 | 180 | -x | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 10 | 1 | 144.232.0.130 | - | ?Herndon, VA 22071 | 181 | -x | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 11 | | 144.228.137.6 | sl-dnetfw-1-0-T3.sprintlink.net | - | 178 | x- | Sprint |
| 12 | | 216.90.2.66 | applink-1.usdlls.savvis.net | - | 187 | x | SAVVIS Communications |
| 13 | | 216.91.192.15 | office1.applink.net | ?Grapevine, TX 76051 | 184 | x-- | Applink Corp |
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Report for 206.149.40.141

Analysis: Node '206.149.40.141' was found in 15 hops (TTL=243). But, problems starting at hop 1 in
network "Fonorola" are causing IP packets to be dropped. It is a HTTP server (running Apache/1.3.9
(Unix) mod_ssl/2.4.2 OpenSSL/0.9.4).

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| Hop | Err | IP Address | Node Name | Location | ms | Graph | Network |
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| 0 | | 149.99.143.164 | spc-isp-mtl-58-6-164.sprint.ca | Montreal, QU, Canada | | | Fonorola |
| 1 | 1 | 149.99.143.254 | spc-isp-mtl-58-6-254-Lo1.sprint.ca | Montreal, QU, Canada | 175 | -x----- | Fonorola |
| 2 | | 209.103.24.1 | - | ?(Canada) | 151 | x---- | CallNet Enterprises Inc. |
| 3 | | 209.5.21.5 | - | ?Victoria, BC, Canada | 147 | x--- | Sprint Canada Inc. |
| 4 | | 204.50.128.81 | - | ?Vancouver, BC, Canada | 137 | -x-- | Sprint Canada Inc. |
| 5 | | 144.232.173.17 | sl-gw9-nyc-2-0.sprintlink.net | New York, NY, USA | 148 | x- | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 6 | | 144.232.7.93 | sl-bb10-nyc-4-0.sprintlink.net | New York, NY, USA | 152 | x-- | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 7 | | 144.232.9.226 | sl-bb12-rly-7-0.sprintlink.net | Elkridge, MD, USA | 159 | x---- | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 8 | | 144.232.7.254 | sl-gw9-rly-9-0.sprintlink.net | Elkridge, MD, USA | 211 | -x---- | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 9 | | 129.250.9.5 | p1-1-1.r02.mclnva01.us.bb.verio.net | - | 181 | x------- | Verio, Inc. |
| 10 | | 129.250.2.186 | p4-0-0-0.r03.mclnva01.us.bb.verio.net | - | 201 | -x---- | Verio, Inc. |
| 11 | | 129.250.2.209 | p1-0-2.r00.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net | - | 205 | -x---- | Verio, Inc. |
| 12 | | 129.250.31.58 | ge-1-0-0.a10.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net | - | 198 | -x-- | Verio, Inc. |
| 13 | | 199.1.141.3 | fa-5-1-0.a09.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net | - | 217 | -x-- | DALCORE OnRamp Primary Backbone IP Allocation |
| 14 | | 157.238.224.122 | applink-gw.dlls.tx.verio.net | - | 217 | -x--- | Rice University-Sesquinet |
| 15 | 1 | 206.149.40.141 | alt.hitechcreations.com | ?Grapevine, TX 76099 | 306 | --x-- | AppLink Corp. |
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And Ill throw in this addy i have, always thought it was the main.

Report for 216.91.192.19

Analysis: Node '216.91.192.19' was found in 13 hops (TTL=243). It is a HTTP server (running
Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.4.2 OpenSSL/0.9.4).

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| Hop | Err | IP Address | Node Name | Location | ms | Graph | Network |
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| 0 | | 149.99.143.164 | spc-isp-mtl-58-6-164.sprint.ca | Montreal, QU, Canada | | | Fonorola |
| 1 | | 149.99.143.254 | spc-isp-mtl-58-6-254-Lo1.sprint.ca | Montreal, QU, Canada | 132 | x- | Fonorola |
| 2 | | 209.103.24.1 | - | ?(Canada) | 132 | x- | CallNet Enterprises Inc. |
| 3 | | 209.5.21.5 | - | ?Victoria, BC, Canada | 134 | -x-- | Sprint Canada Inc. |
| 4 | | 204.50.128.81 | - | ?Vancouver, BC, Canada | 132 | x- | Sprint Canada Inc. |
| 5 | | 144.232.173.17 | sl-gw9-nyc-2-0.sprintlink.net | New York, NY, USA | 179 | -x--- | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 6 | | 144.232.7.93 | sl-bb10-nyc-4-0.sprintlink.net | New York, NY, USA | 147 | x | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 7 | | 144.232.13.157 | sl-bb12-nyc-9-0.sprintlink.net | New York, NY, USA | 143 | x | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 8 | | 144.232.9.70 | sl-bb12-pen-7-0.sprintlink.net | Pennsauken, NJ, USA | 148 | x | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 9 | | 144.232.9.238 | - | ?Herndon, VA 22071 | 181 | x | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 10 | | 144.232.0.130 | - | ?Herndon, VA 22071 | 181 | x- | Sprint/United Information Service |
| 11 | | 144.228.137.6 | sl-dnetfw-1-0-T3.sprintlink.net | - | 183 | x- | Sprint |
| 12 | | 216.90.2.66 | applink-1.usdlls.savvis.net | - | 189 | -x | SAVVIS Communications |
| 13 | | 216.91.192.19 | beta.hitechcreations.com | ?Grapevine, TX 76051 | 195 | -x | Applink Corp |
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Skuzzy · « **Reply #24 on:** June 14, 2000, 08:46:00 AM »

Wow, I have not seen this many problems in so many hops before.

Sprint is getting worse and worse. I really do not know what is going on with those folks, but they have quickly become one of the worst backbone providers on the Internet.
They have never been very good, with sporadic problems from time to time, but it appears they have found new ways to become very inconsistent and very poor at delivering data.

I really do not know what to say about this, other than, if you have another choice for ISP's, you may want to look into it.

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Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
President, AppLink Corp.
http://www.applink.net
skuzzy@applink.net