Author Topic: A New Way Forward In Iraq (Read 4350 times)

Yeager · « **Reply #240 on:** January 19, 2007, 06:37:13 PM »

I'm beginning to wonder about this new General in command of US Armed Forces in Iraq. He seems very gung ho about the revision in tactics. About this surge. I also wonder if the democrats, being so resistant to the change, this surge, if politcs might be at play here? hmmmm.....

I wonder if deep down the democrats are worried this thing might still turn around. Would it be in the best interests of the democrats for the mission in Iraq to fail? And no, in spite of what some here would like to see, failure has not yet occurred in Iraq.

Also, the democrats are trying to pass legislation forbidding an attack on Iran.

This thing could go clinically insane yet.

Hap · « **Reply #241 on:** January 20, 2007, 01:15:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
I'm beginning to wonder about this new General in command of US Armed Forces in Iraq.

How would one learn about the new commander? Best practices??

Regards,

hap

Kurt · « **Reply #242 on:** January 20, 2007, 01:44:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
I also wonder if the democrats, being so resistant to the change, this surge, if politcs might be at play here? hmmmm.....

Right, because only the democrats play politics... The republicans are pure...

I want to know where you buy your drugs, because they sound REALLY GOOD.

Hap · « **Reply #243 on:** January 20, 2007, 10:02:58 AM »

The basic tenor and context of many posts borders on the delusional.

It's as if the democrats are 6 guys in a back room gumming up the works, and how much better we'd all be if they just went away. And FWIW, there are a couple "normal" democratic party ideals over the past 20 years that I'm dead set against.

Good post Kurt.

This, ripping it out of the context of Americal politics, is essentially the same rationale any crackpot has used throughout history to get rid of the folks they deem to be "gumming up the works."

And actually, purging a nation isn't really the point at all. It's a ploy to get folk unified AGAINST anything -- to focus their discontent as a means to get elected.

During my lifetime, both parties have erred at different times and in varying degrees in this matter.

The best reason to back anyone or any political party -- or non-party -- is the superiority of their ideas. Makes it nice and tidy because discussion can ensue as to why this set of ideas is better then that set of ideas.

This, today, is a rarity especially on "open" forums. Scream TV, political pundits racking in large dollars for 15 second diatribes that exist as tabloid journalism makes things worse. Sadly, many buy that version of discourse as aokay.

Happily, many, yet do not.

Regards,

hap

Eagler · « **Reply #244 on:** January 20, 2007, 12:48:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Would it be in the best interests of the democrats for the mission in Iraq to fail?

of course it is ... victory in Iraq is a defeat for the left. Retreat/quitting in Iraq is a victory for the dems .. sad isn't it

Yeager · « **Reply #245 on:** January 20, 2007, 12:48:32 PM »

you guys must be bored. I know I am. Its an observation Kurt, no doubt if the shoe were on the other foot.....well you know. Hap, your above average intelligence. Kudos man and welcome to the team

2Slow · « **Reply #246 on:** January 22, 2007, 01:45:32 PM »

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Originally posted by 2Slow
Split them into 3 countries. Suni (sp) can be Enron. ****e can be Texaco. Kurds can be Conoco.

Then let them slug it out as they have been doing for a couple of thousand years.

****e can be Texaco.
*****e can be Texaco.

My apologies for the misspelling of *****e. Then again, maybe I got it right the first time.

(meatball e)

Edit: Go figure, it won't let me spell S h ii t e as one word.

2Slow · « **Reply #247 on:** January 22, 2007, 01:55:30 PM »

"I also wonder if the democrats, being so resistant to the change, this surge, if politics might be at play here? hmmmm....."

That is the new rant, "We need a change!"

I don't care for changing things for the sake of changing. I want progress. So far, according to others and my own observations of history, only conservative policies applied/followed over a long course of time succeed. Liberal stuff only gives one ( not I) warm fuzzies and placates the masses into believing things are getting better.

My final word on the matter.

Maverick · « **Reply #248 on:** January 22, 2007, 03:23:36 PM »

The only version of "change" I have heard yet from the demos is rather simple. Leave iraq. If they have any other ideas of "change" they seem to have forgotten how to make it public. I don't mind if someone has a criticism as long as they have an alternative idea of how to handle it. Right now I'm not seeing any tactical or strategic options being voiced other than go away and the sooner the better.