Author Topic: Put up or Shut up =) (Read 1720 times)

porkfrog · « **on:** January 22, 2007, 12:02:41 PM »

As many of you know, I have been flying for about a year now. I'm not really good compared to many of you, but feel that I can at least hold my own. I've learned a great deal from the folks who have been around awhile and owe you a debt of gratitude. I'm also pretty vocal at times, but by and large I'd say I'm pretty easy to get along with. Feel free to insert flames at this point if you disagree.

I'd like to bring up a situation here for discussion about people running their mouth. Twice in about 2 days I have had someone talk trash and name call about how I got pwned by them and that I was angry for being taught a lesson AND if I didn't believe it, they would gladly learn me something in the DA. Both times I stated very politely that I wasn't angry about anything. I was simply curious why they had made the choice they did to HO me when it was 3 vs 1. Or to not engage when in a co Alt, co E situation in comparable planes 1 vs 1 in the middle of nowhere, AND that I would be happy to go to the DA. In both instances neither of the 2 who said they would "learn me something" in the DA were actually willing to go once I said "OK, I'll meet you there." I would have had no problem getting schooled in the DA. It's the only thing that will make me any better.

I understand that this is a "WWII flight simulator" and that whoever flies away alive is the victor. Fine. But don't name call and flame me in 200 about going to the DA and then not back it up. I go to the DA whenever the opportunity arises. Storch punished me relentlessly in there just last night. I think out of 6 matches or so I only won once. But I learned some things. Now if people would only learn to back up the S they talk, we would all be better off.

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P.S. Storch, I would like a rematch =)

Trukk · « **Reply #1 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:06:53 PM »

There's jerks in every MMOG. That's why squelch is your friend.

Krusty · « **Reply #2 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:16:05 PM »

Funny thing about HOs....

71 Squadron had a squad op yesterday in Ki84s. I was in one. There was a point when a spitfire, to my perception, was whizzing past at an odd angle and I got an instant, single-ping, lucky-as hell hit sprite on his canopy as he flew past. After he passed me he went POOF and I got the kill. To me it wasn't even remotely a HO, as it felt I was at least 20 to 30 degrees off to the side and he caught a lucky round from my wing cannon that was closest to him.

Anyways, I went back and checked the film to get a screenshot of this, and ... well I'll be dipped! It was a total straight-on HO, and I didn't hit him once, but about 20 times all in the canopy. It wasn't really lucky that I hit him, but rather lucky he didn't hit me back.

So what I'm saying is in the heat of battle your might not think of a certain shot as a HO even if it is. It could be that the person in the 3-on-1 just didn't want to take a chance, and took any shot presented. Or it could be like the fight I had yesterday, where it really doesn't appear to be a full-on HO until you check the film viewer.

I don't get angry at hotards anymore. Just a little annoyed. Too many variables to hold them accountable for it (for the most part). I do, however, get angry when they HO to the point of ramming every time (they don't even bother flying, just kamikaze into the enemy, reup, repeat).

Kuhn · « **Reply #3 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:17:26 PM »

Growing a thick skin is part of the learning process in this community. The trash talk of many a inferior "ACE" can be irritating. One must try to ignore the little sqwakers and carry on. Now in Storches case, I really enjoy the way he can put a one liner together. I hate the way I can't shoot him down unless I catch him off guard. So far score is Storch-20000000 Kuhn-5.
Or some where in that vicinity. So porkfrog grow some leathery skin or it may just eat away at you and affect your skills. Those poop flingers probably get no satisfaction of no response. My response is to try and find them and shoot em down. And yeah the HOin gets old,but thier are counter measures for that.

Kermit de frog · « **Reply #4 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:21:06 PM »

Everyone already knows Jolly sucks.

"whoever flies away alive is the victor." - Jolly
This is not true. This type of thinking is a misconception and is dangerous. If this type of thinking spreads, gameplay will suffer.

porkfrog · « **Reply #5 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:21:26 PM »

yeah, i've learned to just expect to get Hoed and try at all costs to avoid it. that wasn't what got me riled up. it was the "dood, you got pwnt learnt and skooled, and if you don't believe i can do it again, lets go to the DA." then when i said ok (not because i have anything to prove in a cartoon airplane, just that i would like to get better in said cartoon airplane), they just kept talking S but wouldn't in fact go to the DA.

why say it if you aren't going to do it?

DREDger · « **Reply #6 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:23:10 PM »

Pork, I've played this game long enough to know there are just divisive players who readily get off on taunting or creating arguements just for the sake of arguing.. The anonymity of the internet allows for this tuff guy mentality. You have to just ignore it although you want to strangle them.

Frankly, by responding you just play into exactly what they want. You can't reason with or change their mind, nor can u ever 'win' any trash talk 200 arguments...they just go on and on endlessly. Going to the DA never solves anything either. Inexorably it extends into the arguement of 'you cheated on this condition or that'..blabla.

Some guys don't even get satisfaction on 200 and choose to pick fights on country channel. I guess where I draw the line is my squad, since it's mine, if I see that in players they're out.

Then, to top it off, when you read these posts it continues into here too. There are a couple of post guys who continually harangue eachother. Try putting up a post with any opinion and you'll catch it one way or another...sometimes mature dissagreement, others just nasty in your face stuff.

Anyway, good luck with it.

Krusty · « **Reply #7 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:24:51 PM »

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Originally posted by porkfrog
"dood, you got pwnt learnt and skooled, and if you don't believe i can do it again, lets go to the DA."

Anybody that talks, types, spells, or thinks like that is mentally deficient, and far FAR behind the learning curve for their age. Every time I see that I instantly lose all respect for said person and hold them in the lowest regards until they prove themselves anything better than refuse. They have my pity, but not my ears and not my anger. Hell if somebody actually said something clear like "Wow, I totally owned you there, man. Hell I'd own you again, and again, and again, in the DA right now", I've give them a moment's consideration and move on from there. It's not the message it's the way it's delivered. If they act like an AOL script-kiddie they get treated like one -- ignored.

whiteman · « **Reply #8 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:25:26 PM »

i have yet to tune into 200, no need to listen to the other side.

Krusty · « **Reply #9 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:36:02 PM »

Some aren't so close-minded. I've got friends on the other countries. It's nice to see them typing and say "hi" sometimes

200, at times, can get very annoying. When it does I turn it off. For the most part I leave it on. Mostly to taunt JoeDog, but still! That's worth it >

DaPup · « **Reply #10 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:38:58 PM »

Don't take this the wrong way but.....you mention that you asked why they ho'ed? Why? That, to me, would be the start of the confrontation. Most everyone ho's from time to time. When I tune to 200 that seems to be all I hear...nice ho retard, lame kill, lucky shot, stop running sissy and my all time fav...let's DA lol

I wasn't there so I don't know how you broached the subject but if I get ho'ed I don't ask them why they did it....I already know

FX1 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:44:55 PM »

My response to any AH God garbage is as fallowed..

200: Fx1 bla bla bla

200: Me, DA?

200: bla bla bla your a dweeb 16 bla bla

200: Me, Da in your ride?

200: bla bla %^%$

200: Me, Shut up our DA

200: #$*^!@&()(&&&)

200: .Squelch AH God

End of story

Then i just hunt them down and kill them a couple more times till they log..

Works every time..

porkfrog · « **Reply #12 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:54:04 PM »

FX1

btw Sir. Excellent fight with you yesterday! me in a LAGhay7 and you in the 4HOG. i knew whoever it was was good when you were forcing really hard angles and flying so damn good. at first it was just me against you and that Zeke. then another guy from my side joined into the mix and it got really interesting. You a damn good stick FX1.

hey, would you mind some DA against me in a ki84 with you in Spixteen? i could use a lesson or 2 against a good 16 pilot.

SlapShot · « **Reply #13 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:56:35 PM »

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Originally posted by DaPup
Don't take this the wrong way but.....you mention that you asked why they ho'ed? Why? That, to me, would be the start of the confrontation. Most everyone ho's from time to time. When I tune to 200 that seems to be all I hear...nice ho retard, lame kill, lucky shot, stop running sissy and my all time fav...let's DA lol

I wasn't there so I don't know how you broached the subject but if I get ho'ed I don't ask them why they did it....I already know

Bingo !!!

No need to ask anybody WHY they did something ... they did it ... they can't take it back ... get in your new plane and start all over again.

If I had to ask WHY someone did what they did every time in situations such as that ... I wouldn't have time to fly.

When someone pulls the smack talk on 200 towards you, your best response is ... LOL ... nothing more ... nothing less.

Kuhn · « **Reply #14 on:** January 22, 2007, 12:58:40 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
Bingo !!!

No need to ask anybody WHY they did something ... they did it ... they can't take it back ... get in your new plane and start all over again.

If I had to ask WHY someone did what they did every time in situations such as that ... I wouldn't have time to fly.

When someone pulls the smack talk on 200 towards you, your best response is ... LOL ... nothing more ... nothing less.

THATS the thick skin I'm talking about!