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Offline FX1

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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2007, 01:05:18 PM »
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btw Sir. Excellent fight with you yesterday! me in a LAGhay7 and you in the 4HOG. i knew whoever it was was good when you were forcing really hard angles and flying so damn good. at first it was just me against you and that Zeke. then another guy from my side joined into the mix and it got really interesting. You a damn good stick FX1.

hey, would you mind some DA against me in a ki84 with you in Spixteen? i could use a lesson or 2 against a good 16 pilot.


No problem i would love to da in 16 v 84. I was always wondering which would win with equal pilots.

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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2007, 01:16:28 PM »
well you see FX1, therein lies the problem. you said "with equal pilots". you must be mistaking me for someone else. i was just hoping to see how long i could survive in seconds vs. you in that spixteen of yours.
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2007, 01:25:25 PM »
I've maybe tuned in Channel 200 four or five times in a year-and-a-half.  Usually to get word to other side about someone I see very consistently and suspiciously warping  (usually turns out to be someone with dial-up.... and my firing tracers seems to  cause them to warp.... ....bleh!).  

I've also had to squelch 2 or 3 who felt strongly enough to taunt me by PM, when they discovered I wasn't on 200 for them to bother to their satisfaction (luv'd the PT spawner I killed 3 times, he finally hits my engine, I rtb as glider, and he PM's me "you'd better run"....lol...).

Otherwise, why bother.  If you like to posture against the enemy, then whatever floats yer canoe.  Talk smack all you like.  Not me.... the .s works whether I'm tuned in or not to 200.  I've got enough to deal with on Help Channel at times to bother with what's on 200 anyways.


As to the HO's.  I don't worry about that either.  It happens.  You have lots of noobs entering this game on 2 week trials, who aim straight for whatever they fixate on.  They HO.  They grab whatever they think is the fastest plane, with da most cannon, and bore straight in.  Field defenders are quick to do it, as they can re-up immediately, while you've got to travel.... which slightly offsets the vulch I suppose.

I'll usually try to avoid a HO on a merge, when practical, but by the same token, I won't leave myself an easy kill to the other guy if he is barreling straight in, expecting me to dodge.  Some pilots seem to expect and try to take advantage of this on the initial pass....you avoiding the head-on, they aimed straight for you...... then cry "HO!" if they don't come out ahead on that pass.   Whatever.  
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HO's happen..... is it what I *try* to do?  I fly Ki-84 more than anything.... definitely not a HO-fighter..... head-on's not good for health of rice paper planes, and not enough cannons to make it work well.  But, it still happens.  Are there times I try to?  Yep...if I'm in my IL-2 chasing GV's, and enemy fighters try to take me, I do everything I can to keep my nose toward them.
They want to go head-to-head with an IL-2 (or a Mossie) I'll support it.
 Same if I'm in a goon.  Sometimes when I'm attacking enemy bombers too, try and take out the pilot.

Those that rail against HO's probably raising their blood pressure unnecessarily.  It's not much different than the guy who is constantly hopping and jumping around in a FPS like Battlefield 2.   Or the one that runs full tilt shooting everything he has through an enemy squad formation to disrupt it until they kill him.  Not realistic at all, not showing any real skills, just a way of using the game's features or quirks, to their advantage.

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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2007, 01:48:52 PM »
By getting upset you only feed the problem.  Your giving them exactly what they want.  I've had a dweeb go as far as personal chatting me (for quite some time) trying to set me off.  After a lot of laughs on my end, he finally gave up.

Smack is all part of the game.  It can actually be pretty fun, and can encourage improvement...but if it really bothers you...squelch.

I don't really understand the point of the DA and proving ones machismo...  To me, a pilot is as good as his squad.  Teamwork brings home more kills than individual skill.
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2007, 02:06:17 PM »
Jolly,

I had a great time and fully expected to get whipped because everyone knows (and most of all myself) I plainly suck at this game.  I go to the DA with people I like and not at all with the ones I dislike.  The DA teaches me nothing.  being in the arena looking for the largest red to smallest green darbar teaches me everything.  flying the worst turners and getting in turn fights teaches me everything.

Re: smack talk  

if it weren't for the smack talk on twohunert I would have long ago quit this game.  I can take all the verbage others toss my way and return it in spades.  I love smack talk.  I've been practicing it since I was a kid and doing it face to face when the results are often a fisticuff.  on the intardnet smacktalk is sheer bliss, like eating apple pie n ice cream and not having to run 5k a night to work it off.

so keep on rocking me tardlings you only add fuel to my bright flames.

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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2007, 02:25:07 PM »
to me a HO looks like the notourious game 'chicken'.
if you come at a guy dead on 12 oclock, and sustain that position for 300m+ and pull your trigger, you have accomplished the HO.
this is just a general hteory,
most others things i consider to be an 'oppurtunist's shot'.

just my 0.02$

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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2007, 02:46:57 PM »
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Jolly,

I had a great time and fully expected to get whipped because everyone knows (and most of all myself) I plainly suck at this game.  I go to the DA with people I like and not at all with the ones I dislike.  The DA teaches me nothing.  being in the arena looking for the largest red to smallest green darbar teaches me everything.  flying the worst turners and getting in turn fights teaches me everything.

Re: smack talk  

if it weren't for the smack talk on twohunert I would have long ago quit this game.  I can take all the verbage others toss my way and return it in spades.  I love smack talk.  I've been practicing it since I was a kid and doing it face to face when the results are often a fisticuff.  on the intardnet smacktalk is sheer bliss, like eating apple pie n ice cream and not having to run 5k a night to work it off.

so keep on rocking me tardlings you only add fuel to my bright flames.


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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2007, 02:48:45 PM »
Never go head to head with a plane with better guns than you have. (whether you plan on firing or not)  More often than not the guy with the better guns will take a ho shot, and why not his odds of killing you are better than you him.

Period.

Thats just dumb.

I have had angles that I thought were way off and had a guy take a great snapshot on the tail or canopy.

I will tell you if you go h to h with an la7 or hurri 2 or 190, you will probably get ho'd, and if you have no cannons to defend yourself, well you need to rethink your merge skill.s

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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2007, 02:53:15 PM »
I gave up trying to ask civil questions.....you get nothing but flack back from people. I asked a guy once what kind of shot i gave him and he took it all personal like. Even after explaining that I wasen't mad or anything I just wanted to know what kind of shot I presented when I did a particlaur move. Now on the other side of the coin, People like Bluekitty, creton always seem to be willing to offer advice when asked.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2007, 02:55:44 PM by stickpig »
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2007, 02:53:44 PM »
Some newb the other day was egging me on on 200 because i blasted him a couple times. Then i started my defencive mode and was engaging him and his hole squad "red dots everywhere" so i kept my alt advantage and didn't let any of them over 6k our beat them down after they engaged me over my head.

Well this kid think his name started with ice pm me over and over. Well after i killed his hole squad looked out my 3 oclock and their was a high jug did a steady climb to him and was going to merge co alt. He talked so much smack to me i was going to play with him and only use my 50's.

Guess what he Ho'ed me from 800 out, bam i am down. Then he had the nerve to say on 200 he pwned me.

My response to this was to squelch him then called two squaddies and capped his field.

Works great.  

Lesson learned always think the other guy is going to ho.

Force is needed sometimes to punish people that dont give respect to others. I dont take watermelon from newbs only from my friends "squad mates" and some vets that i really do respect.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2007, 03:02:10 PM by FX1 »

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2007, 02:58:01 PM »
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so keep on rocking me tardlings you only add fuel to my bright flames.



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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2007, 02:59:38 PM »
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FI do, however, get angry when they HO to the point of ramming every time (they don't even bother flying, just kamikaze into the enemy, reup, repeat).


Ahh...the guided missile ho as I call it.  It seems to always be a spixteen or la7.  If your guns aren't your primay weapon, but rather the mass of your airplane...why don't they ho in a plane with enough mass to get the job done every time.  A B-17!  Fully laiden!  Then you've got 3 guaranteed kills!
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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2007, 04:04:25 PM »
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when it was 3 vs 1

 the DA were actually willing to go

 But don't name call and flame me in 200 and then not back it up.
 
Now if people would only learn to back up the S they talk, we would all be better off.

 Storch



It is soo funny that you mention this kind of behavior and Storch's name in the same post! LMAO!  :rofl :lol :rofl :aok

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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2007, 04:25:14 PM »
If there's anything worth saying beyond passing along a salute or just chatting with friends, IMO, it should be said over private coms. Posturizing and bloviating on 200 just shows the immaturity of those who insist on doing it.

Besides, the private coms are much more interesting to record and ponder whether to just squelch or alert HTC of the content.

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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2007, 05:33:38 PM »
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I love it when people mention Storch's name since he kills me either in the cartoon air or on these boards, he's my hero storch owns SkycRock