Author Topic: Spies (Read 2956 times)

kj714 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 28, 2007, 01:27:20 PM »

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Originally posted by AAolds
You are not worth a response.

Because you don't have one. I'm just echoing the common response to many of these "griefer" type complaints. Hey if HT didn't want it to happen, he'd make it against the rules.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #31 on:** January 28, 2007, 01:49:07 PM »

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Originally posted by daddog
Your showing your age Ack Ack. Of course I am assuming you watched that show as I did.

yep

Lazerr · « **Reply #32 on:** January 28, 2007, 01:54:55 PM »

Unless your missions are NOE, I can spot you as soon as you rise above 500ft AGL. Only an idiot cannot read a map, a large bar-dar in the middle of enemy territory is pretty obvious, action is normally on the fronts.

SkyRock · « **Reply #33 on:** January 28, 2007, 02:15:04 PM »

Just a little note: If you don't want to fight, to accomplish your mission, then prepare the mission correctly. I see this all the time, word gets out about darbar, then you go to intercept and find the mission at 10-12 k, that's laughable! Take off a few bases back, and come in at 18-22k and attack with supremecy! Most will not go that high to intercept and the ones that do are usually out of climb and wep and are easy kills even with DT and ord on! I think I'm going to the MA and plan a mission just for old times sake! Look out buildings!

Bronk · « **Reply #34 on:** January 28, 2007, 05:31:39 PM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
Just a little note: If you don't want to fight, to accomplish your mission, then prepare the mission correctly. I see this all the time, word gets out about darbar, then you go to intercept and find the mission at 10-12 k, that's laughable! Take off a few bases back, and come in at 18-22k and attack with supremecy! Most will not go that high to intercept and the ones that do are usually out of climb and wep and are easy kills even with DT and ord on! I think I'm going to the MA and plan a mission just for old times sake! Look out buildings!

Toolsheder

Bronk

kj714 · « **Reply #35 on:** January 28, 2007, 07:58:50 PM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
Just a little note: If you don't want to fight, to accomplish your mission, then prepare the mission correctly. I see this all the time, word gets out about darbar, then you go to intercept and find the mission at 10-12 k, that's laughable! Take off a few bases back, and come in at 18-22k and attack with supremecy! Most will not go that high to intercept and the ones that do are usually out of climb and wep and are easy kills even with DT and ord on! I think I'm going to the MA and plan a mission just for old times sake! Look out buildings!

!!!OMFG!!111

But then we'd have to spend a buncha time flying to the target.
Spies, spies, all of ya's.

gbleck · « **Reply #36 on:** January 28, 2007, 08:14:47 PM »

Or better yet 22k-27k with p-47s and b-17s.

Serenity · « **Reply #37 on:** January 28, 2007, 09:29:55 PM »

I understand that you can see a mision coming once it gets up to a decent altitude. But ive had a mission VULCHED on takeoff by s 262 waiting for us, right over the runway. I know, people do fly 262s on sweeps, but this guy was LINED UP on the runway and already diving when the mission rolled/ Luckily there were only 3 of us who launched at that point, and he only got those 3 kills. Ive simply started flying from bases near my HQ if im planing a big BUFF raid, or I make a fake mission, with only the planes being correct, and at T-1 I simply change the feild and go after th other country, on a mission I had planned the whole time. The spy's buddies wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, but we never show up

TexInVa · « **Reply #38 on:** January 28, 2007, 10:02:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Ghosth
Tips

Call for the mission on country channel, give them a field to gather at that is NO where near where you intend to go.

Give them a radio channel #

Say nothing else about the mission on country channel.
Make sure no one slips and says anything on help or open channel.

Pick your takeoff field so that it could have 2 targets, takeoff in that direction, then once away from the field turn to true target.

In short, get a bit sneaky. Don't get mad, get even

Generally speaking the new arena setups make it tougher to sneak a big mission in.

Don't forget waypoints, and telling pilots how to see them.

Gotta love a well planned and executed mission by professionals.

Schatzi · « **Reply #39 on:** January 29, 2007, 03:17:02 AM »

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Originally posted by B@tfinkV

we ran a few mission over the weekend and on every sortie we got spied on by someone and were met by unlikely ammounts of 262s and other interceptors.

Batfink.... was that "spy" the mission leader on channel 200 maybe?

TexInVa · « **Reply #40 on:** January 29, 2007, 06:31:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Schatzi
Batfink.... was that "spy" the mission leader on channel 200 maybe?

I did that once, when I was a bish flying for the Silent Executioners (I usually type to keep the vox channel free). This was followed by a long silence from my squadies and then Kegger saying, "OK, change of plans....".

DREDger · « **Reply #41 on:** January 29, 2007, 08:05:51 AM »

I did that once, when I was a bish flying for the Silent Executioners (I usually type to keep the vox channel free). This was followed by a long silence from my squadies and then Kegger saying, "OK, change of plans....".

Thats funny, I did that the other night too, typed up a mission directive on 200 by accident...long silence then..'Dredger, u just typed that on 200?'...ooops.

Yesterday in Orange I ran about 8 missions, and about 6 of them got busted, all of them NOE. Problem with NOE is once you are found out, not much you can do about it but die.

I believe in just about all cases some enemy spotted us, be it high bombers or the lone porker and reported us on country channel, which is fair enough. It is a small map and hard to up anything without being seen by someone.

As far as cheaters, I really don't know. I hope not.

Is that true though, there are no rules against it?

SkyRock · « **Reply #42 on:** January 29, 2007, 08:31:12 AM »

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Originally posted by DREDger
I did that once, when I was a bish flying for the Silent Executioners (I usually type to keep the vox channel free). This was followed by a long silence from my squadies and then Kegger saying, "OK, change of plans....".

Thats funny, I did that the other night too, typed up a mission directive on 200 by accident...long silence then..'Dredger, u just typed that on 200?'...ooops.

Yesterday in Orange I ran about 8 missions, and about 6 of them got busted, all of them NOE. Problem with NOE is once you are found out, not much you can do about it but die.

I believe in just about all cases some enemy spotted us, be it high bombers or the lone porker and reported us on country channel, which is fair enough. It is a small map and hard to up anything without being seen by someone.

As far as cheaters, I really don't know. I hope not.

Is that true though, there are no rules against it?

against spying? Hanging at dawn! lol Missions are only as successful as the planning!

DREDger · « **Reply #43 on:** January 29, 2007, 09:01:49 AM »

Missions are only as successful as the planning!

For the most part yes I would agree; although seemingly just another platitude I've come to expect from Skyrock.

How about missions are only as successful as the planning and execution? How about planning, execution and involvement. How about planning, execution, involvement and not having 20 planes with altitude waiting and looking for you. How about planning, execution, involvment, no 20 in opposition and a little LUCK too?

follow what I'm saying.....

4deck · « **Reply #44 on:** January 29, 2007, 09:39:29 AM »

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Originally posted by TW9
i sometiems let the enemy know when theres a mission heading to a base im having fun at... basically if u wanna ruin my fun im gonna ruin yours.. if missions were planned better maybe i'd help but seems all they do now a days is take out fh's and nothing else.. leaving me with a bunch of gv's to deal with..

i remember when organized missions were fun.. actually flew them alot.. anyoen remember the rocstar and fariz missions? we'd get like 3 or 4 resets a week. was pretty simple.. take out vh, field, ack and town then cap the field and hold ord just incase we lose cap and take out the fh's.. now for some reaosn the strategists are a bunch of noobs that think killing fighter hangers and fighter hangers only is how to capture a field..

WELL, First let me state a few opening statements.

First and foremost, Missions, public you have no idea the level of performance of the players that are going to participate. What their skillset is and how effective they can do the job assigned. This comes in several factors from vox issues to not understanding the role the person plays in the mission to just a no-so-experienced player. Either way its good comradre, and help and training are alwas promoted, I try to help any "newb" with the bombing aspect of the game. Mostley because I am depending on them to do their job effectively.
Second, Dropping FH's is an extremely important role for several reasons in the public side of missions, because co-ordination of fighter cap is limited at best without the participation of experienced players. Getting ack down now is,,,well the phrase "Death star ack" comes to mind. I think you forgot about that. Can it be done. Absolutley. Will you lose a few in the process. Absolutley. 15 minutes of flight black for the downed may or break a mission. I dont know about the country your talking baout but I do know the knights side of things, and recently were working together ( sometimes) . I cant tell you how PO'd I get when u see bases falling, and others flying around a base for over an hour, and the town isnt even touched. But hey, Its their money, They can do whatever they want to do. I play for base capturing, and winning. Thats my bottom line. My squad is still fairly new, actually a month old, but the ideas were generating will definitly impact the knights when it comes together. Right now, its a learing curve, that will be surmounted, and when it comes together, its gonna be great. Im looking forward to seeing 30+ players role in from various bases, with GV'ers, Bombers, Jabo, fighters, all coming together to take a base within a few minutes.