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Offline Benny Moore

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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2007, 07:35:18 AM »
My issue with Spitfires is mainly that they comprise in game a far larger portion of the aircraft one encounters than they ever did in any theater (including the Battle of Britain).  Aside from that, they're so easy to fly that they do allow a considerably inferior flier to get kills on a superior pilot.  This is particularly true of the later Spitfires, which not only maneuver better than nearly all of their opponents but are also faster.

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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2007, 07:36:51 AM »
Welcome back Angus.

Did you learn any good trolling tips while on the fishing boat? ;)  :D

Some people just can't accept that the Spitfire was such a good a/c. :cool:

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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2007, 07:46:54 AM »
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Except some of us actually signed up to fly the Spitfire because we LIKE the Spitfire.

To some of us, it is just as much about the Spitfire and its story as the Bf109, Fw190 and P-38 are to the fans of those fighters.

The fact that it is just a great all round fighter in AH is beyond our control.


 Which is I respect some of the dedicated RAF fans in the game. However, you're not dumb Karnak. You know which kind of people we're talking about.

 I don't think there's any denying that some people just don't care about the "fight" itself. All they want is to win, and what better tool for victory than a plane that does (almost) everything better than the opponent's?

 Is that a bad thing? I don't think so.

 However, it is undeniably detrimental to the quality of the game in that such preferences for the "best of everything" just kills whatever small amount of 'variety' we may actually come to enjoy. It's just one of things which no one can blame on an individual level, but becomes dangerously erratic and degenerate when it emregs as a collective.

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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2007, 09:16:53 AM »
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
Aside from that, they're so easy to fly that they do allow a considerably inferior flier to get kills on a superior pilot.



I'm not sure I follow this logic.

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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2007, 09:35:37 AM »
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Originally posted by Movie
why do most pilots consider the spitfire as a dweeb plane?


Because its the only plane that +Dead can get any kills in.

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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2007, 09:46:28 AM »
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Welcome back Angus.

Did you learn any good trolling tips while on the fishing boat? ;)  :D

Some people just can't accept that the Spitfire was such a good a/c. :cool:


Hey Milo, and TY.
I'm back, but will be a frequent "leaver" untill summer.
Yes, indeed, the Spitty was in RL a formidable fighter in the Air to air role, and as well the western Allies fighter built in greatest numbers, as well as serving through the whole war, so for an allied fighter, it was a common sight.
Imagine the whines if there was a +25 IX ccc, or if the XIV was adjusted to RL turn and ROC (or has it been done?), or if there was a Mk21 :D
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2007, 10:07:52 AM »
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Originally posted by Karnak
Except some of us actually signed up to fly the Spitfire because we LIKE the Spitfire.
To some of us, it is just as much about the Spitfire and its story as the Bf109, Fw190 and P-38 are to the fans of those fighters.
The fact that it is just a great all round fighter in AH is beyond our control.

 :aok
Also does anybody remember when the Spit IX was the dweeb ride before the Spit 16 came along?  And the Niki was referred in this fashion also

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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2007, 10:12:05 AM »
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Originally posted by Benny Moore
My issue with Spitfires is mainly that they comprise in game a far larger portion of the aircraft one encounters than they ever did in any theater (including the Battle of Britain).  Aside from that, they're so easy to fly that they do allow a considerably inferior flier to get kills on a superior pilot.  This is particularly true of the later Spitfires, which not only maneuver better than nearly all of their opponents but are also faster.


*shakes head*

1st we do not have any true late war spits.
Max boost for spits is 18 lbs, which is a '43 setting.

Spits are NOT faster. This is with the exception of the Mk XIV.
Without wep on  spits are in the lower 1/3 of AC in game.

They are however very quick accelerating. So once you start the fight with one don't get slow .

Better thank your lucky stars HT didn't add the Mk XII.

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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2007, 10:13:35 AM »
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The Spixteen isn't even the ultimate merlin Spit, - they also had the IX with +25 boost :D, - clipped and optimized for lower alts.
Spixteen is also good on Lala dweebs :D


Same plane angus just with Packard built merlin.

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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2007, 01:38:30 PM »
Well, +25 instead of +18.
Was the Packard also a "ccc"?
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2007, 02:03:47 PM »
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wow. Nail on the head right there. I started flying the Spitfire mk IX not because of its performance but because I was watching Spitfire Ace, and it got me in the nostalgic mood. I refuse to fly Spixteen though, because that is just not a true Spitfire with those dreadful clipped wings...


Clipped spits are better because you can do so many things in spits with slight increase of roll.  Clipped spits olny appeared in numbers when twittlers in the Channel Front massacred so many full winged spits in 1942 alone.  Clipped spits enabled them to keep up with twittlers in roll and dive.

From mid-war to the end of WWII, I think the Spitfire's main nemesis was the dreaded Fw 190, not the 109.

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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2007, 02:11:52 PM »
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Well, +25 instead of +18.
Was the Packard also a "ccc"?
No Angus only the Mk Vs were ccc.

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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2007, 03:18:22 PM »
bottom line spitfire can own most all planes maybe the zeke only when the pilot makes a mistake.

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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2007, 03:25:36 PM »
if im on a good day i might beable to give a spit pilot a good run for the money with my Il:aok
Spit pilots tend to ignore the Il dancing around them and die:D  (from what ive seen in h2h)
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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2007, 03:26:58 PM »
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Clipped spits are better because you can do so many things in spits with slight increase of roll.  Clipped spits olny appeared in numbers when twittlers in the Channel Front massacred so many full winged spits in 1942 alone.  Clipped spits enabled them to keep up with twittlers in roll and dive.

From mid-war to the end of WWII, I think the Spitfire's main nemesis was the dreaded Fw 190, not the 109.


I understand. Its still not a Spitfire to me, its something else. More effective sure, but not the Spitfire I loved when I was 8, nor the Spitfire I want to fly now in memory of the battle of Britan. In fact, my favorite Spitfire in the game is the mk I because it really is a true Spitfire. But then it was the first so of course. But yeah, the clipped Spitfires should be called Spitfi's to indicate being clipped ;) :D