Author Topic: FSO: Tunisia or Bust - Side Assignments (Read 712 times)

ghostdancer · « **on:** January 28, 2007, 06:48:49 PM »

I did not hear from all squads on their preference or commitment levels, so I used last FSO commitment level for you squad if I did not hear from you. Also right now no squad should have flown for more than 2 frames for any one side (axis o allies).

Here is the side assignments for this FSO:

Allies
! 347th Fighter Wing !
327th Steel Talons
475FG ==**SATANS ANGELS**==
56th fighter Group
613th SOS Pariah
9GIAP VVS RKKA
Damned SE
Fighters Inc
Marine Air Wing
Sick Puppies
VFS 1000
364th C-HAWKS FG
~~~FATE~~~

Frame 1 CiC: 327th Steel Talons
Frame 2 CiC: 9GIAP VVS RKKA
Frame 3 CiC: ~~~FATE~~~

AXIS
325th Checkertails VFG
348th Fighter Group
412th FS "Braunco Mustangs"
65th FS ~Fightin' Rogues~
880 Sqn FAA
Arabian Knights
Clowns of Death
III/JG44 NightHawks
Nightmares VMF-101
~USMC~
~~~The Unforgiven~~~

Frame 1 CiC: 412th FS "Braunco Mustangs"
Frame 2 CiC: Sick Puppies
Frame 3 CiC: The Unforgiven
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Axis Min = 100 (if every squad was -2 under min then 78)
Axis Max = 138 (if every squad was +2 over their max then 160)

Allies Min = 99 (if every squad was -2 under min then 75)
Allies Max = 138 (if every squad was +2 over their max then 162)

As always while the range between possible side forces is very narrow it will all depend on squad turn out. So I encourage all squads to do their best to turn out as many pilots as they can.

Also remember that if your squad goes over your max +2 you are allowed to place your overage with other squads on your side who are under their max.

Nefarious · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2007, 07:02:10 PM »

confirmed.

Mystic2 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2007, 07:13:16 AM »

just a question... I requested Allied this go around. We flew Allied last FSO, but were Axis for several prior... if you really need us to fly Axis we will, but just for the record, we did request allied....

Mystic (THE UNFORGIVEN)

ghostdancer · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2007, 07:47:43 PM »

I know.

Most people request Allies. Out of 24 active squads, 4 requested axis, 12 requested allied, 1 expressed no preference, 7 never responded / updated their squad preferences.

Remember that side requests are just that, the CMs asking if you have a preference. We do what we can to honor it but we also have to make sure that nobody flies one side three times in row (well unless somebody asks for axis three times in a row).

I will make sure to pass onto APdrone that your request for next frame (point out that you flew have flown 1 axis, 1 allied, 3 axis in a row, and 2 allied in a row over the past 7 FSOs).

ghostdancer · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2007, 07:48:30 PM »

I made a mistake in my Excel file.

880 Sqn FAA is Allied not Axis.

Sickpuppies are Axis not allied.

Stoney74 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2007, 08:57:22 PM »

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Originally posted by ghostdancer
I know.

Most people request Allies. Out of 24 active squads, 4 requested axis, 12 requested allied, 1 expressed no preference, 7 never responded / updated their squad preferences.

What I'm curious about is that if there are 24 active squads and 12 requested allies, why not give them allies? My squad likes flying American rides. We like flying American rides in FSO. If there are 4 that requested Axis, 1 that said no preference, and 7 no response, seems like an even 12/12 split, and eveybody's happy.

If there were 24 squads wanting to fly Allied planes I'd see a need to flip flop squads to both sides, but what's wrong with one squad flying one side all the time if that's what they want to do, and there's no overwhelming demand for one side or the other?

We're going to happily fly Axis rides this FSO, but I'm really just not understanding the flip-flop "rule". Could you perhaps allow us behind the curtain to get a better understanding of the decisions that have to be made at the CM level? I'm sure I don't know what type of balancing act you guys have to choreograph in order to make this work.

ghostdancer · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2007, 09:29:25 PM »

For two reasons:

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I have to make sure that the sides are balanced numerically. If I went with all 12 squads that requested allies the allies would have a massive numerical advantage.
In the rules no squad is supposed to fly more than 3 frames in a row for one side. The only exception to this is if they want to fly for the axis for 3 or more FSOs in a row.

Right now out of 24 squads I have 6 squads that have flown for the same side 2 times in a row.

It is a balancing act where I have to make sure to have balanced numbers and that no one squad constantly get to fly for one side more often than other squads who want to.

Not hearing from 7 squads is anomaly. Usually I track down all squads and get an answer from them. This time I didn't do to time restraints do to real life items.

Stoney74 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2007, 11:32:53 PM »

Fair Enough...

Should I change my plane preference then?

Mystic2 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2007, 06:14:45 AM »

understood.... will adjust accordingly...

ghostdancer · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2007, 06:29:39 AM »

Stoney plane requests are also just that for the side you are on. Definitely put in a plane request on the AHevents site. But also email the CiC for the frame and put in a preference and request for a plane type.

Remember here to all squads have be ready to fly something that is not there first choice in at least one out three frames (Bostons for the allies I would guess is nobody first choice and JU88s or JU87s for the Axis).

But many CiCs do take into consideration squads plane request .. especially around frame 2 where somebody goes .. my squad flew bombers in frame 1 and would like to fly either X or Y fighter in frame 2.

ghostdancer · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2007, 06:30:18 AM »

Mystic as said I will apprise the next admin CM of your guys history of flying Axis predominantly over the past several FSOs.

Mystic2 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:18:05 AM »

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Originally posted by ghostdancer
Mystic as said I will apprise the next admin CM of your guys history of flying Axis predominantly over the past several FSOs.

TracerX · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:22:02 AM »

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Originally posted by ghostdancer
I know.

Most people request Allies. Out of 24 active squads, 4 requested axis, 12 requested allied, 1 expressed no preference, 7 never responded / updated their squad preferences.

Wow 12 requested Allied? I feel the Axis have the better aircraft in this frame. I have to guess that the Allied gun packages are what draws people to the Allied side, more than plane performance. I can't explain it otherwise.

Honestly, I think FSO would be better if squads encouraged their members to fly all aircraft, especially the LW planes in the Main Arena more. I understand the predominance of allied squads such as Mystic's, that employ a specific plane type. We (USMC) have the same issue with the F4U-1's, but learning not to fear the LW planes makes all the other frames much more enjoyable. Mystic should do what he needs to in order to fly his squad's preferred ride this time, but only 4 squads chose Axis??? Come on! There are not many setups where the Axis side actually has better planes than the Allied. If you don't want to fly Axis for this event, it must be pure drudgery for you to fly LW. This is the height of the LW planeset, and where they really shine historically. Give me Axis 99 times out of 100 with this setup! At the very least, it helps me to fly Allied when I really want to.

ghostdancer · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2007, 11:54:37 AM »

I don't believe it is a case of fearing or not liking LW planes. I believe Mystic was just bringing up that over the last 5 FSOs his squad has flown Axis 4 times (this FSO axis, Ketsu-go as allies, then the previous 3 FSOs as axis straight).

So think it is a case of just wanting some variety instead of flying Axis so often.

As for other squads .. what can I say people prefer allied for some reason. I agree that I think the LW planeset (even with the limited fw190A5 numbers .. 12 total for the event) is strong.

TracerX · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2007, 01:08:40 PM »

I didn't mean to imply that I had any problems with Mystic's request. I would do the same. 12 requests for Allied however, is just crazy to me in this planeset. How favorable does the Axis side have to be to even out the requests? I can feel your pain on dividing up sides Ghostdancer, if this is any indication of the lopsidedness.