Author Topic: newbie (Read 1549 times)

Dichotomy · « **Reply #15 on:** January 29, 2007, 08:30:39 PM »

nobody could do it worse than me bro

You get a free two week trial before you start paying so take the time to go into the Training Area and ask questions.

Everybody crashes in there and that's the point. You go there to learn basics, or work with a Trainer to hone your skills. Basically you go there to crash and burn until you figure things out.

If you see me in there feel free to speak up. I like to help the really new people if I can. Kind of paying it forward for all of the people who have helped me achieve a certain level of mediocrity

moneyguy · « **Reply #16 on:** January 29, 2007, 09:53:10 PM »

<====playin 4 or 5 years, still learin new stuff

BaldEagl · « **Reply #17 on:** January 29, 2007, 11:53:14 PM »

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Originally posted by lock&load007
i do have a joy stick logiteach force 3D pro but i have no idea how to set it up read stuff on it but it just dont click for me not sure how set it up still it seems like you need to know the game a bit so that you can set up the joy stick as needed but i am a retard and cant do it

OK, thats better. Lets start with this.

First you need to set up your joy-stick.

You said you could get off the runway so take off and tell me if:

When you push forward on your stick does the plane go down. When you pull back does the nose come up? When you tilt it left and right does the plane tilt left and right?

Does the handle on your stick twist and if so when you twist it does the plane turn?

Do you have a throttle slider on your stick or do you have a wheel on your mouse you can use for throttle?

You said you were slower than the drones off-line. Either your throttle is turned down (you need to map it to a controller and turn it up to start each flight) or you have flaps and/or landing gear down (which isn't likely if you're using auto take-off) or you are climbing too hard to get to the target planes (i.e. trying too hard too soon).

Tell me where you are with each of these so we get this right first, then we'll move on.

Schatzi · « **Reply #18 on:** January 30, 2007, 03:37:14 AM »

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Originally posted by lock&load007
oh thats in the online area ..you see i would have never checked there i did not want to go to live server i am sure to crash and mess up others who are learning

Like I already said. If you have never been Online, you can "Save up" on your free trial and go to 8 Player Mode.

On startup screen, instead of OFFLINE, select 8 PLAYER, then click on "Join internet game". You will be brought to a list of arenas that are currently hosted. If you ask around, im sure youll find someone to help you there too.

As for information on the TA: http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/trainingarena/trainingarena.htm

lock&load007 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 30, 2007, 04:13:26 PM »

yes the controller seems like it was set by the game i did not set it up but i can see it's set up i guess to default.

i can take off with or without auto pilot

but crash land every time i dont have much control of the plane.

i can push down on stick and plane goes down i pull back on stick plane goes up left and right both work done a few left and right roll overs.

i do have the twist on the controller plane does not seem to move much if at all with the twist i have to kind of bank left or right to get it to turn.

i have throttle on joy stick i think it was already set up again maybe by the game default setting i have tryed to set it up by moving it all the way back and than back up i see the numbers go from 0- when throttle is in foward position and i think somthing like 39000 when in the down position. it seems to work when i take off but again i am only getting to a speed of 150-160. i was not really trying to shoot down anything i was just checking to see if my controls were set up but i noticed that these other planes where moving much faster than me. them seem to be going more than double my speed.

Dichotomy · « **Reply #20 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:02:33 PM »

L&L you've got Schatzi and Bald helping you here. They can describe what you need to do now much better than I can.

Have you calibrated your stick yet?

BaldEagl · « **Reply #21 on:** January 30, 2007, 08:36:54 PM »

LockandLoad,

Lets make sure your joystick is properly calibrated. We're going to do it in Windows first. If you had to load software when you set-up your joystick it probably created a program group. Go to start/programs and look for the manufacturers name and a set-up or calibrate application. It should walk you through calibration and allow you to test it afterwards to make sure everything is working correctly.

If there is no program group go to start/run/control panel and look for a game controllers icon (it might also be under input devices). Double click it, make sure it "sees" your joystick then run calibrate. It should walk you through calibration and you should also be able to test it afterwards to make sure everything is working correctly.

Now go into the game. Go to set-up, controllers, calibrate controllers. It will walk you through calibration.

Next go to set-up, controllers, map controllers. If I'm not mistaken the x axis = elevators (up/down), y = ailerons (roll left/right) and z = rudder (turn left/right). You can also map your throttle to your joystick slider here. Once you've done this click on one axis, click the advanced tab and make sure the scale input sliders are set to default (left one at the bottom, right one at the top and the rest in a straight diagonal line between them). Do this for each axis.

Now go out onto the runway in a fighter. Take off with auto take-off and at full throttle. Make sure you hear the gear bells and see the gear light go off. Make sure flaps are all the way up. Soon after take-off you should be climbing at ~150 mph.

Once you gain a little altitude, level the nose and you should start to pick up speed.

If you've done everything right at this point you should be flying.

Let me know if it works.

lock&load007 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 31, 2007, 06:33:37 PM »

bald thank you for trying to help me but dont waste any more time on me i know some of the things you are talking about but i cant find a lot of it i have not seen any calibrations just some quick move throttle back forth twist handle all direction but not much of a setting or anything just move them around and click ok and thats all it does..

3 days into this dam game and i am so pissed already and i am not sure why, i knew from the very beginning it was to hard for me but really thank you for your efforts

Dichotomy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 31, 2007, 09:18:28 PM »

hang in there lock.. it's really hard I know..

if you want to meet me in the ta tomorrow night to work through some of the very basics to get you in the air just say the word. I'll be available around 7:00 CST. Saw you in there tonight and tried to get your attention but you had logged before you got my msg...

BaldEagl · « **Reply #24 on:** January 31, 2007, 11:32:52 PM »

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Originally posted by lock&load007
bald thank you for trying to help me but dont waste any more time on me i know some of the things you are talking about but i cant find a lot of it i have not seen any calibrations just some quick move throttle back forth twist handle all direction but not much of a setting or anything just move them around and click ok and thats all it does..

3 days into this dam game and i am so pissed already and i am not sure why, i knew from the very beginning it was to hard for me but really thank you for your efforts

Thats all it is. It just asks you to move everything through it's full range of motion then click ok. If youve gotten that far you are calibrated.

Did you map your controller?

At this point I would agree with Schatzi (sorry if I mis-spelled that) and log into one of the 8 man arenas to see if anyone can help you in real time, or, if you have already been to the training arena and activated your free trial find someone in there who will do the same for you.

Don't give up. Once you start to get it you'll be glad you stayed with it.

Schatzi · « **Reply #25 on:** February 01, 2007, 04:58:25 AM »

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Originally posted by lock&load007
bald thank you for trying to help me but dont waste any more time on me i know some of the things you are talking about but i cant find a lot of it i have not seen any calibrations just some quick move throttle back forth twist handle all direction but not much of a setting or anything just move them around and click ok and thats all it does..

3 days into this dam game and i am so pissed already and i am not sure why, i knew from the very beginning it was to hard for me but really thank you for your efforts

Click on the link below:

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/controllers/controllers.pdf

Print that file out and then start the game. The instructions have screenshots that tell you exactly where to click and go and what to do.

sgt203 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 01, 2007, 09:54:37 AM »

007,

Dont get discouraged keep at it it will start to get easier....

The people that are helping you are not wasting their time if they felt this way they wouldnot have responded to help you in the first place.. They do this because they want to not because they are obligated..

This is a great game and have alot of people that are willing to help you because they want to... Almost evrybody got help when first starting out it is what makes the aces high community so great...

Listen to what they are telling you they know their stuff.. Im rarely in the TA but you see me there I will be more then happy to help you also... I dont know much but can help to get you started out..

This is a great game and a ton of fun so take your time work at your own pace and remember the only stupid question is the one not asked..

Welcome to Aces High..

HomeBoy · « **Reply #27 on:** February 01, 2007, 01:06:29 PM »

LL,
Trust me I know exactly how you feel. I have been at this game for over ten years! [Almost ashamed of that fact] If you were to look up my score and rate me against others who have played that long (please don't do that!) I am certain I would be very near the worst player in that group. It's not that I'm not trying my best to improve either. This just comes really hard for me. I have however over the years come to terms with that and now look at the challenge before me with a certain pleasure. I guess we all have our approach. Some just quit and move on. Others really get good. A few, like me, just look for small milestones. Like right now, I'm working hard on my gunnery and I'm shooting for a K/D of 2! I've never had a K/D that high I don't believe and I'd be thrilled to get that good.

So, if you really like WW2 combat (as I do), hang in there. If you really just came here looking for yet another FPS game then maybe it's not worth the frustration for you to hang in there. I'm not trying to run you off but I'd only tell you to hang in there if you really love what this game offers. If you do, then seek help, fly in the 8-man, read books, tactics postings, etc. and learn. There is not a week that goes by that I don't learn something new. I was sitting in the jury lounge the other day waiting to see if I was going to be assigned to jury duty and going through a mental exercise of what I should have done the night before when that LA7 shot me down in my D-stang! I began drawing pictures and going through all sorts of scenarios. That's just part of what makes this game so much fun for me!

Good luck to you whatever you decide. Just know you are welcome here if you decide to stick it out!

-hb

lock&load007 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 05, 2007, 03:04:03 PM »

thanks guys been playing a bit more only in the ta area there is a lot to learn and i can see this taking years to even be ok at it i may keep going for a few months after the 2 week trial

i have a problem with not being able to go as fst as anyone else a lot of people ask what plane but it dont matter what plane i take i can only get 150-175mph unless i go high and drop down than my speed picks up 250-350 mph in any plane i take. the gauge that shows when you throttle up and down with goes from like 0 to 70 and when i am at full throttle it will only go as high as 50 is that right or should it go all the way to 70?

Blagard · « **Reply #29 on:** February 05, 2007, 05:50:53 PM »

Hi,

It depends on the plane . But the P51D should give you a little over 60 and when you apply WEP (War emergency power) closer to 65. Use the P key to turn WEP on and off.

If you cannot get the WEP to work on the P51D then you need to recalibrate your throttle/joystick.

If you do get WEP to work you are getting full power so your throttle is OK because it will only work on 100% throttle.

Things that can make a plane slow are:
Being too heavy (Loaded with bombs or maybe a full fuel tank!)
Forgetting to retract the undercarriage (gear)
Flying with flaps down
Flying with the RPM set below maximum (It is maximum by default)
Constantly turning with too much G (Bleeds off speed)
Oh and of course not having the throttle at full!

There are probably more but those came to mind first!