Author Topic: Civilian cars/flying enemy planes (Read 938 times)

Wes14 · « **on:** January 28, 2007, 09:18:19 PM »

maybe if u took a base near a city u could drive a cilivilian car,one of these cars will appear with a netural(grey?) tag saying Cililian to both friendly and enemy teams.

the car could have 2-4 troop option, or a small car bomb

the cilivian cars will not be able to travel offroad that good and be limited or berked

now speaking of flying enemy planes, if a base is taken over their is a few enemy planes/tanks/etc if u havent blown up those hangars.u would appear friendly to your team and friendly to the team that that plane originally belonged too (untill their 1.5-2.0K away then they will be reconisable as enemy planes)

it would be a good addition to both MA and h2h in my opinion:D

Serenity · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2007, 09:48:10 PM »

wow. Hate to be mean but that has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard...

1) wtf is the point of a civ. car?!? There werent many BMWs or Mercedes Benz's driving around Normandy when the allies were storming the beaches.

2) Honestly, car bombs?!? The terms 'extremest' and 'Kamikaze' come to mind. If this was a spy game, or hitman, I could see it. But asking for a suicide-vehicle in a WWII simulator?!? I really dont get the logic behind this...

3) Um, as soon as you get enemies looking like friendlies, cheating will sky-rocket. Besides, in world war two there were no icons, you decided shoot or not by the plane type. Since everyone can fly every plane, there is no possible way to determine between friendly or enemy unless you shoot them. And if they ARE friendly, YOU DIE! Even with the 1.5-2.0k range, you will have osties K/Sing, from 1.5k-2k a WgR 21 will be in range very shortly, so qucikly you have no hope of evasion when in a bomber. Do you not see the issues here?

Wes14 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2007, 09:53:32 PM »

the civ. car would be the stealthy way to get troops near a base

and japanise(plz dont mock my bad spelling) pilots kamakazied all the dam time to wreck a CV but that aint modeled..isnt it?
now i agree on the enemy plane idea after thinking of it

but still i say'd about these ideas being limited or perked(like hell)

Serenity · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2007, 10:02:16 PM »

Jeeps are just as discreet as those cars. Or, get an M3, and follow a convoy in. The enemy, unless very close or in a plane, will not be able to tell the difference between your M3 and the convoy trucks, and will assume you are just one of them.

As for why kamikazes arent modelled: Lancstukas are bad enough already, but give them the ability to do MORE damage by ramming?!? Thats just asking for trouble. Also, those kamikazes, unlike AH, didnt come back. And they wasted valuable resources and pilots, but that isnt modelled here either.

Wes14 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2007, 10:11:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Serenity
Jeeps are just as discreet as those cars. Or, get an M3, and follow a convoy in. The enemy, unless very close or in a plane, will not be able to tell the difference between your M3 and the convoy trucks, and will assume you are just one of them.

i did that,drove right past a patrolling M8 tank..he didnt realize till i started laughing on Channel 1 (Typing,talking about h2h)
and then when he realized i just drove around the convoy to the front untill he was out of fire range(he didnt move,just fired some dam inaccurate shots) then went back to back:D

but still i know soldiers "barrowing" civiling cars to get somewhere happened in ww2(Spec ops stuff)

Serenity · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2007, 10:17:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Wes14
(Spec ops stuff)

Exactly. We dont drop insurgents from B-24s in AH like they did in WWII. We dont drop supplies to the french resistance. We dont have assasins we drop into cities to kill important people. There are a lot of Spec. Ops. things that took place in real life, but this is a front-line combat game, not James Bond.

Wes14 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 28, 2007, 10:22:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Serenity
Exactly. We dont drop insurgents from B-24s in AH like they did in WWII. We dont drop supplies to the french resistance. We dont have assasins we drop into cities to kill important people. There are a lot of Spec. Ops. things that took place in real life, but this is a front-line combat game, not James Bond.

but it would be nice to add a touch of that stuff (not all of it but a few select things) to add to the tactics end of the game

and if i forgot to say civ. cars would appear with a grey tag to enemy air-craft too,in turn making the other team talk out if it is enemy or friendly before they take decisive acton

Serenity · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2007, 10:28:29 PM »

I still dont see the point of it.

Meatwad · « **Reply #8 on:** January 28, 2007, 10:30:48 PM »

no no no

NO

Just plain ignorant

skycaptn · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2007, 02:09:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Serenity
Exactly. We dont drop insurgents from B-24s in AH like they did in WWII. We dont drop supplies to the french resistance. We dont have assasins we drop into cities to kill important people. There are a lot of Spec. Ops. things that took place in real life, but this is a front-line combat game, not James Bond.

Did you just reference to american soldier who fought and died to end the sensless slaughter of innocents and the rule of possibly one of the most evil and insaine men in history as INSURGENTS????!!!!

WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BOY??!

please print a retraction boy.

Serenity · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2007, 02:12:25 AM »

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Originally posted by skycaptn
Did you just reference to american soldier who fought and died to end the sensless slaughter of innocents and the rule of possibly one of the most evil and insaine men in history as INSURGENTS????!!!!

WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BOY??!

please print a retraction boy.

Insurgent: A person who takes part in a forcable opposition to an established government; a member of a group especially a political party who revolts against the leadership. You, my ignorant friend, are mistaking the word 'Insurgent' for 'Muslim Extremeist'. Please print a retraction.

Also, I wasnt refering to just Americans. In fact, it was mostly british and french jumping from bombers in the dead of night...

Brenjen · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2007, 09:45:33 AM »

Actually, what those allied covert operatives were called would entirely depend on what side of the fence you were looking at them through.

The Nazis called them saboteurs & spies & we called them heroes.

Serenity · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2007, 03:35:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Brenjen
Actually, what those allied covert operatives were called would entirely depend on what side of the fence you were looking at them through.

The Nazis called them saboteurs & spies & we called them heroes.

I am looking at them from a point of complete neutrality. I mean no disrespect, but when I think of those types of missions, insurgent comes to mind, not because of our issued in the middle east, but because, well, insurgency is what they did. A lot of them WERE from the countries they were jumping into, having escaped, and wanting to contribute to the war effort. I stand by what I said.

Brenjen · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2007, 08:30:46 AM »

The ones who were citizens of the countries they were operating in could be accurately described as insurgents by todays standards. I don't think that was a term used in the 40's though. The allies called them "the resistance" The Germans I believe called them saboteurs (not sure, it might be worth investigating)

Shamus · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2007, 11:31:56 AM »

We need horse drawn wagons, then we can post screen shots and films on the PITA forums.

shamus