AMD64 single core vs. AMD Sempron

[Nomak]

Originally posted by RELIC
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Dave, thanks for the info.  I was wondering what if any effect that DDR2 533 would have over running DDR2 800 (or even higher as they continue to increase the speeds).  I assume the RAM won't run as "fast" but you can lower the timings as a tradeoff?
I have been an AMD fan for years but I agree - Intel is the way to go right now especially if you are looking for upgradeability.

Read this to answer your timing/speed questions.....

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/03/31/tight_timings_vs_high_clock_frequencies/

I skimmed the article but havnt read the whole thing.  My ram timings are set at "Auto"  I am not a guru at "Tuning ram settings"  With my current rig I just dont see the need.  If that makes sense.

Dave

[Tigger29]

Yeah I'm not looking for upgradeablity, nor am I looking for a monster system, just looking for something cheap that will outperform my old 2200XP AMD system.  I've used a few A64 systems in the past and was quite impressed with their performance and "smoothness", and I've been itching to get into one ever since.

Also I'm not interested in overclocking... personally I don't see a need for most people who do so TO do so (other than for the simple reason that.. they CAN!)

For what I use my computer for, believe it or not this POS 450mhz system I'm using now is ALMOST adequate.. my 2200XP system was darn near PERFECT, (aside from a bit slow on the AH side of things.. still 15fps in 10+ plane furballs isn't bad for that system), but I can get into an A64 for literally a few dollars more, so I think that's what I'm going to do.

I would reuse my old case, but I found a great deal on a MB/CASE/PS combination.  The case looks great and while the PS is a bit lacking, I can always upgrade that later should the need arise (only 350watt).

Also I can always find a used motherboard down the road and bring my 2200XP system back to life.. maybe use it for a backup system or give it away to a friend or something...  I just don't trust used equipment.

Thanks for the advise, guys.. I appreciate it.  Although I know there is better out there than the A64, that's going to be an issue down the road.. when I have a few hundred smackaroos more to invest.  While I'm impressed with everything I'm hearing about the Core-duo, I don't think I want to make the just to multiple cores just yet.. plus I'm VERY VERY curious to see what's going to be the NEXT technological jump over the speed hurdles.

[38ruk]

Also I'm not interested in overclocking... personally I don't see a need for most people who do so TO do so (other than for the simple reason that.. they CAN!)

Uhhh , I like having my 200 dollar proccessor perfoming at the 8-900 dollar proccessor level . When i bought my Amd64 3700+ (2.2ghz) it was $220 ish and the FX-57 (2.8ghz) was 8-900 ish . I clocked mine to 3.0 ghz and a year later its still chuggin away. It's a performance per dollar thing i guess.

[Nomak]

Originally posted by 38ruk
Uhhh , I like having my 200 dollar proccessor perfoming at the 8-900 dollar proccessor level . When i bought my Amd64 3700+ (2.2ghz) it was $220 ish and the FX-57 (2.8ghz) was 8-900 ish . I clocked mine to 3.0 ghz and a year later its still chuggin away. It's a performance per dollar thing i guess.

San Diego core yes?  I have the same in my wifes machine.  What are you using for cooling?  Messing around with hers I was able to hit 2.8 Gig with no issues at all.  It has the stock AMD fan and sink.  It actually runs cooler than my Conroe  Was considering going to 3gig...... any thoughts?

Dave

[38ruk]

Originally posted by Nomak
San Diego core yes?  I have the same in my wifes machine.  What are you using for cooling?  Messing around with hers I was able to hit 2.8 Gig with no issues at all.  It has the stock AMD fan and sink.  It actually runs cooler than my Conroe  Was considering going to 3gig...... any thoughts?

Dave

Yep its a sandy , same as FX-57 . I'm using water but ive ran it at 3ghz on air without issue . I didnt use the stock fan , i had a Thermaltake venus 12 and it kept it cool enought not to worry about temps ( it sounded like a weed eater thou ). Ive actually had it up to 3102 mhz , but didnt see much difference at all so i turned it back to 3003.

I would say go for it , just watch your temps and dont put too much vcore to it on air . And dont forget to keep you ht link as close to 1000mhz as you can . I had to put 1.6vcore to do 3.1ghz , on air i wouldnt go over 1.5 which is what mine needs to run 3ghz. I also had to use a memory divder (333) with a 273 FSB X11 , so dont be afraid to test .