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Offline bustr

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« on: January 29, 2007, 08:08:49 PM »
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/DineshDSouza/2007/01/29/giving_radical_islam_its_start

Fun passage from article:

When the Shah petitioned the Carter administration to purchase tear gas and riot control gear, the human rights office in the State Department held up the request. Some, like State Department official Henry Precht, urged the U.S. to prepare the way for the shah to make a “graceful exit” from power. William Miller, chief of staff on the Democrat-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee, said America had nothing to fear from Khomeini since he would be a progressive force for human rights. U.S. Ambassador William Sullivan even compared Khomeini to Mahatma Gandhi, and Andrew Young termed the ayatollah a “twentieth century saint.”
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2007, 12:36:50 PM »
The origins of terrorism can be traced back as far as the 1970s?

Wow. I thought it all started in 2001.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 12:43:53 PM »
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The origins of terrorism can be traced back as far as the 1970s?

Wow. I thought it all started in 2001.

Actually, it can be traced back to when the British started mingling in middle east affairs, and that might go back centuries...

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 12:46:12 PM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



:rofl :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 01:24:58 PM »
I think the article in the original post is actually pointing to events that accelerated and encouraged the current problems in the middle east OUTSIDE the long running Israel <->"Palestinian" conflict. The article is correct, for the most part, however it fails to take into account events prior to and after the events in mentioned the article. Although I have nearly boundless respect and admiration for Ronald Reagan, his pullout of Beruit was a major mistake, not of the proportions of Carter's many errors, but still a major mistake. Further still there is the unwillingness to pull out the stops and finish the job in southeast asia. So we have what amounts to a series of events, some much worse than others, that lead our enemies to believe there is a serious lack of will to fight and win, and in all honesty, their belief is not completely unfounded.

As a side note, I give Carter plenty of credit for his work with Sadat, who ended up paying with his life for his attempt at peace with Israel. However, Carter's actions of the last decade or so have done much to make the situation worse, enough to negate most of the success he achieved with Sadat and Egypt.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007, 01:55:47 PM »
i thought boosh invented terrorism so he could control the worlds oil supply, boy am i dumb. :O


ah, is this new history or old history?
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2007, 02:21:06 PM »
Someone had to continue the mess.

Thanks for taking over that responsibility - you're exceeding all our expectations.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2007, 02:38:22 PM »
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Someone had to continue the mess.

Thanks for taking over that responsibility - you're exceeding all our expectations.


And the oil is still flowing. You're welcome, at the cost of our country's best, at the cost of their blood.

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2007, 03:14:50 PM »
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And the oil is still flowing. You're welcome, at the cost of our country's best, at the cost of their blood.


There you have it. We invaded Iraq for oil. :aok
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2007, 03:26:15 PM »
National interest is always in the reasoning for conflict Sandie, you know that.  Given how the industrialized world is dependant on oil to maintain an industrialized society should that surprise you? There is no society in any industrialized country that will continue to flourish much less survive if the supply of oil is gone. It goes for far more than transportation alone.
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2007, 03:36:31 PM »
that albatross should be hung around the neck of a certain republican president. the one who authorized the coup to overthrow the iranian democracy back in '53, and the rationale given at the time was cheap oil.

seems rather cowardly to lay the blame at the feet of carter...a guy who builds homes for the poor, as a matter of fact...i'd say carter was the only president with enough integrity to acknowledge the hideous facts.

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2007, 04:13:26 PM »
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a guy who builds homes for the poor, as a matter of fact.


Iran thinks Carter was the best president too...

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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2007, 05:18:21 PM »
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that albatross should be hung around the neck of a certain republican president. the one who authorized the coup to overthrow the iranian democracy back in '53, and the rationale given at the time was cheap oil.

seems rather cowardly to lay the blame at the feet of carter...a guy who builds homes for the poor, as a matter of fact...i'd say carter was the only president with enough integrity to acknowledge the hideous facts.


I know a lot of guys who build homes for the poor. They'd suck at being President too. Carter has so much integrity his "think tank" is abandoning him over his latest book.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2007, 05:35:25 PM »
You guys ever even hear about the Crusades?