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Offline Krusty

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Ta152H-1 wing tanks = asymmetrical???
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2007, 05:23:56 PM »
Well considering even a 180 took us 2k-3k apart from each other, I'd classify it as a HO, but I didn't care at the time :)

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Ta152H-1 wing tanks = asymmetrical???
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2007, 06:26:24 PM »
You know what Krusty, as early as when squaddies and I really shook down the 152, I do remember feeling that roll-bounce when you really dug into high +G maneuvers.

The tail heaviness from that never-emptying tank, though, I don't see being made the sole exception in the planeset.

I didn't mean that the plane was unfamiliar, but that so late after the present revision's introduction, what could you expect to effect, with less than a talk with HT, supported by hard evidence?
I mentionned its E-retention because (AFAICR) it is really enough of a redeeming quality all by itself.

I do wish it were fixed back to its pre AHII FM.
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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2007, 06:46:29 PM »
A lot of the aircraft in AH have "WEP" that doesn't require an additive. That is, they just run at higher RPM and manifold pressure, that's where they get the extra power.

Some require a coolant or anti-detonating additive for the increased pressure. The F4u4 uses water, as does the P47N. The 109K uses MW50.

Most of these planes have the reserviors in centrally located tanks, tanks that are well balanced and do not affect flight performance, empty or full.

The Ta152 uses MW50 and GM1, one in the tail one in one wing. Those are two places opposite of "centrally balanced".

I know that no aircraft drains the tanks, but no other aircraft has the same problems with the tanks, so a compromise should be reached with the Ta152, rather than an across-the-board sweeping change.


Oh, and Moot, HTC faculty read the forums regularly. That's part of why I bring up issues like this. :aok


EDIT: In AH1 this thing was a secret monster. However, AH1 had inaccurate air flow and this might have been why.

Hell, I just realized. If it was tailored and tweaked to fly in the buggy code, why don't they tailor and tweak it to fly in the new code? Get the same results but with the new airflow code?

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Ta152H-1 wing tanks = asymmetrical???
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2007, 06:56:11 PM »
Those tanks are where they're supposed to be, so what compromise do you suggest?

And yes, the 152 didn't get the smoothing out that (every, IIRC) other planes got a short while after we got the AH2 FM.

But like I said, you need to make your case to HT & co, not just tug at their skirt.. As I remember it used to work, anway.
I had gotten Skuzzy to grant me one frank question to HT (directly) way back when, but never did take him up on the offer... maybe I still could? :)
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« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2007, 12:21:01 AM »
It's not so much a question. We know the issue, it seems. If anything it would be a request, and as such this thread serves the purpose better (having discussed it better in this thread than perhaps would be possible over the phone).

Save your question for something good :)