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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2007, 04:42:44 PM »
The Colts are no longer in Baltimore?!  :huh

When did they move the franchise?

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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2007, 05:00:11 PM »
Actually Baltimore moved to Indianapolis and Cleveland moved to Baltimore.

This was just after Los Angeles moved to St Louis when St Louis moved to Phoenix.  Sometime around there Oakland moved back to Oakland after having moved to Los Angeles.

This was well after Brooklyn moved to Los Angeles and New York moved to San Francisco, but I am not sure whether Quebec moved to Denver before or after Minnesota moved to Dallas and Hartford moved to Tampa...  or did Hartford go to Carolina?  Where did Winnepeg move to?
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« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2007, 05:04:21 PM »
I think they moved Baltimore.  

Dunt worry Shuckins.  My Wife moved my car the other day, and I called the cops to report it stolen.  Imagine how silly I looked when they show up and the car is in the driveway.  Last place I would have looked for it.

Uh,..that was a pretty freaky seguay.
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« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2007, 05:09:16 PM »
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Uh,..that was a pretty freaky seguay.


I tried one of those a while ago... dam thing drove me into the river....
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« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2007, 05:21:27 PM »
The RAMS are in ST. LOUIS??!!  Egad! :O

How could they possibly adjust?!  There are no beaches in St. Louis!

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« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2007, 05:38:00 PM »
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No.  But I dont pretend to be an NFL quarterback either.  He should stop pretending to be one himself.
any way you slice it he's a world class athlete.  young and inexperienced perhaps but world class none the less.  he's not pretending to be anything.  he's a professional football player who did the best he could on one given sunday and came up second best in the league.  go read roosevelt's quote in widewing's sig line.

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« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2007, 01:03:11 PM »
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any way you slice it he's a world class athlete. young and inexperienced perhaps but world class none the less. he's not pretending to be anything. he's a professional football player who did the best he could on one given sunday and came up second best in the league. go read roosevelt's quote in widewing's sig line.


That's highly debatable, from someone who's watched him play in every game this season. He's a better athlete than a non athlete for sure. Compared to his peers he's below average. He had some very good games early on, and he's had some very bad games -- 0 QB rating games. And, a number of "his" wins were in fact won by the defense or special teams in spite of Rex doing his best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

In pressure situations he tends to fold like a house of cards, making very poor decisions and trying to win the game with his magic arm and magic plays that more often than not simply and easily fall into the hands of some defender, underthrown in double coverage. And as the injuries mounted over the season the pressure only increased. He also has a public attitude that suggests he believes he far better than his record indicates, and that his skeptics are just "ignorant."

He may very well turn into an adequate NFL QB, but I say that's at best a flip of the coin. "World class" is not something that I think can be even remotely added to his mantle at this point.

Frankly though, it's not Rex's fault. The real finger pointing should be (and is) directed at the coaching staff and/or the back office for trying to push him along too soon. To be perfectly honest, for myself and a great many here in Chicago, his play in the Superbowl was hardly a surprise.

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« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2007, 08:30:52 PM »
My take on Grossman is he's the kind of athlete that plays best when he has something personal to lose, i.e. his job. Lovie didn't do him any favors by standing staunchly behind him as Rex's season fell apart.

That leaves Chicago with a problem; do you come out next year with Rex as "the man", or do you make him earn it back? Me, I totally agree with something Peter King (Sports Illustrated, love his stuff) said; the Bears are only missing one key piece for a championship- how long can they wait for Rex to mature? Looking at it from a Bears' (not Grossman) perspective, I would grab Jeff Garcia as a free agent and see what he could do. Garcia is not great, but he is far more consistant AND has playoff experience. And let's face it; a mediocre day from Rex may have been enough to win. Manning sure didn't put up Pro Bowl numbers.

The one thing Chicago absolutely could not afford to have happen was a Grossman meltdown.

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« Reply #53 on: February 06, 2007, 08:36:46 PM »
Hey, you guys wanna trade Grossman for Carr?

At least Grossman attempts some downfield throws.
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« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2007, 07:42:31 AM »
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That's highly debatable, from someone who's watched him play in every game this season. He's a better athlete than a non athlete for sure. Compared to his peers he's below average. He had some very good games early on, and he's had some very bad games -- 0 QB rating games. And, a number of "his" wins were in fact won by the defense or special teams in spite of Rex doing his best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

In pressure situations he tends to fold like a house of cards, making very poor decisions and trying to win the game with his magic arm and magic plays that more often than not simply and easily fall into the hands of some defender, underthrown in double coverage. And as the injuries mounted over the season the pressure only increased. He also has a public attitude that suggests he believes he far better than his record indicates, and that his skeptics are just "ignorant."

He may very well turn into an adequate NFL QB, but I say that's at best a flip of the coin. "World class" is not something that I think can be even remotely added to his mantle at this point.

Frankly though, it's not Rex's fault. The real finger pointing should be (and is) directed at the coaching staff and/or the back office for trying to push him along too soon. To be perfectly honest, for myself and a great many here in Chicago, his play in the Superbowl was hardly a surprise.

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I couldnt quite place my finger on it but y9o9ur post helped me figure it out.
I knew he reminded me of someone. I just couidnt remember who.

He reminds me of former Giants QB Dave Brown
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