Author Topic: Pelosi (Read 1393 times)

Toad · « **Reply #30 on:** February 08, 2007, 02:50:02 PM »

I think 89 MAW spokesperson said winter winds can require a fuel stop on a G3.

john9001 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 08, 2007, 03:16:09 PM »

C-20B has a range of 4200 miles.

ET · « **Reply #32 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:18:59 PM »

As much as I dislike Pelosi,she did nothing wrong. She asked for a nonstop plane and the Pentagon said none are available.
She has said that she will now fly commercial nonstop. I guess if she has secret service with her, they will go along.
Either way, we will pay.

Xargos · « **Reply #33 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:42:28 PM »

I was a fueler for big jets about 10 years ago, at the Charleston International Airport, and if I remember correctly jets use less fuel in the winter because the air is denser which gives the engines more to push on.

Toad · « **Reply #34 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:45:50 PM »

And I've seen 100+ kt headwinds going to the West Coast. Sorta makes a difference in your normal groundspeed.

I don't know what fuel reserve requirements 89th MAW uses to plan but I can conceive of situations where a G3 wouldn't fit the profile, ranges posted here notwithstanding.

john9001 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:55:26 PM »

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Originally posted by ET
As much as I dislike Pelosi,she did nothing wrong. She asked for a nonstop plane and the Pentagon said none are available.
She has said that she will now fly commercial nonstop. I guess if she has secret service with her, they will go along.
Either way, we will pay.

the air force offered the C-20B, they have 5 of them in the USA and it has a range of 4200 miles and it's what the last speaker of the house used.

Toad · « **Reply #36 on:** February 08, 2007, 04:58:17 PM »

It wouldn't suprise me if you have to have enough fuel for the approach and missed at airport of intended landing, fuel to the alternate and approach there and then another either percent or time amount of fuel left after that.

Couple that with winter winds and you may have a situation where the G3 can't go.

It's going to depend a lot on enroute winds and destination weather.

Xargos · « **Reply #37 on:** February 08, 2007, 05:06:24 PM »

Why can't she just ship herself UPS?

Flatbar · « **Reply #38 on:** February 08, 2007, 05:15:18 PM »

For Immediate Release
February 8, 2007

As the Sergeant at Arms, I have the responsibility to ensure the security of the members of the House of Representatives, to include the Speaker of the House. The Speaker requires additional precautions due to her responsibilities as the leader of the House and her Constitutional position as second in the line of succession to the presidency.

In a post 9/11 threat environment, it is reasonable and prudent to provide military aircraft to the Speaker for official travel between Washington and her district. The practice began with Speaker Hastert and I have recommended that it continue with Speaker Pelosi. The fact that Speaker Pelosi lives in California compelled me to request an aircraft that is capable of making non-stop flights for security purposes, unless such an aircraft is unavailable. This will ensure communications capabilities and also enhance security. I made the recommendation to use military aircraft based upon the need to provide necessary levels of security for ranking national leaders, such as the Speaker. I regret that an issue that is exclusively considered and decided in a security context has evolved into a political issue.

She must really scare the politicos on the other side of the isle to generate this kind of vitriol over a non issue.

ET · « **Reply #39 on:** February 08, 2007, 05:25:51 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
the air force offered the C-20B, they have 5 of them in the USA and it has a range of 4200 miles and it's what the last speaker of the house used.

I think the last speaker only went half as far. Anyway, the way I hear it is the Pentagon could not guarentee a nonstop in the C20B for some reason and she don't want to stop to refuel. I wish I had perks like that.

Debonair · « **Reply #40 on:** February 08, 2007, 06:17:47 PM »

DCA has a very limited set of feeder airports & AFAIK, SFO is not one of them. IIRC, denver is the furthest west airport from which departures are allowed to fly nonstop to DCA. IMOH the best solution for the speker would be a P-82 based out of College Park:cool:

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #41 on:** February 08, 2007, 07:22:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Actually, Yeager, the entire Republican organization is to blame. They held the Senate, House and Presidency for six years and accomplished basically nothing in ANY area of importance. Immigration? Zip. A better tax system? Nope. There were NO improvements anywhere.

They had opportunity to lead and they chose to sit on their hands. It really isn't that suprising that they were replaced.

They are/were the biggest bunch of bungling imbeciles the world has ever known, unless they were truly out to financially castrate the US, then they are a work of evil genuis.

Toad · « **Reply #42 on:** February 08, 2007, 08:15:34 PM »

The 89th MAW/99AS operates out of KADW. She'd be on a military flight plan, not a civil one. I suspect they operate into and out of KADW with a different set of rules.

AWMac · « **Reply #43 on:** February 08, 2007, 11:49:14 PM »

I say let her take the Short Bus cuz she's sooooo Special.

I pray that Bush and Cheney remain healthy.

This woman reeks of vile and hatred as much as Hillary.

While we're at it lets nominate Bill Arkin as the Chief of Staff...errr Shaft...

Mac

midnight Target · « **Reply #44 on:** February 09, 2007, 09:32:16 AM »

So that's at least 2 republican hit stories about non-issues in the last couple of weeks. I wonder when some of you all will wise up?

1. Obama went to a "Madrasa"
2. Pelosi wants a luxury jet.

Any bets on who will be next on the fabricated story hit parade?

I accept your apologies on behalf of the democratic party and all free thinking Americans.