Author Topic: Interesting proposal on DRM music (Read 467 times)

Mustaine · « **on:** February 09, 2007, 12:43:29 AM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070209/ap_on_hi_te/emi_unprotected_music

EMI is possibly looking into selling it's library in MP3 format with no DRM protection.

if they do choose to do this, it may start a swing in the DRM world, depending on how consumers react (which I personally think will be very positive)

I don't have and never have bought a song from iTunes, and never will, based solely on the fact you can't play the songs where, when and with what you want.

If I pay for a song, I want to use that song whenever I want, however I want (in a legal manner) If I choose to "share" that song, I should be held liable, but I should not be prevented from using the material in any legal way.

I really hope they go ahead with this, it will turn iTunes on it's ear, and hopefully release the stranglehold on music.

Reschke · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2007, 10:21:56 AM »

Interesting article on comments from Steve Jobs concerning iTunes and removing DRM from their music sales.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17013250/from/ET/

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/

Mustaine · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2007, 10:27:02 AM »

for some reason I think the DRM music thing is going to go bye-bye pretty soon.

the technology just isn't there to protect the music, AND let a user do whatever in a legal manner.

if DRM in music is "given up on" it will be really interesting to see how M$ responds, and how vista does.

wooley · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2007, 10:44:57 AM »

At its most basic level, I don't have any problem with something that prevents me from using something other than in the way I agreed when I purchased it.

The problem is not DRM per-se, but rather the way its been implemented. Its currently buggy, frequently causes you to 'loose' purchased tracks and interferes with things it shouldn't.

Reschke · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2007, 09:38:57 PM »

All the more reason to make it go bye-bye BUT that would cause companies to admit they were wrong in some ways. I do think SOME types of DRM have their place but they are typically associated with things like computer software and such.

In fact I remember as a kid sitting beside the radio with my "boom box" waiting on certain songs so I could tape them in a completely quiet room and my little sister coming in and yelling just to screw up my tape. Then I would have to rewind and wait two or three days just for another chance.

Those were the good old days of non-interference from big music.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2007, 10:57:01 PM »

Ya know, I've bought the same album on multiple formats over the years; album, cassette and CD's. I think I've paid enough to the artists I like at this point to have a free ride with the respective artists for the rest of their careers. And if they come out with a "remastered and expanded" edition of the album I already have they should send me a complimentary copy.

Fishu · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2007, 04:48:39 AM »

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Originally posted by wooley
At its most basic level, I don't have any problem with something that prevents me from using something other than in the way I agreed when I purchased it.

The problem is that there is no alternative. I'd have no problem with DRM either if there would be an alternative source for the same material but without DRM. I've decided not to buy any kind of movies or music with DRM, which leaves me with almost nothing to buy digitally. Well, it's their loss and the cr4x0r groups flourish.

eagl · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2007, 05:23:19 AM »

buying a CD and ripping it to mp3 myself, or buying a non-DRM mp3... sounds about the same to me. I know I'd definately buy more music if it came in non-DRM mp3 format. That's more money directly into their pockets.

I don't steal music so with me they gain only the sale price, but for those stealing the music they're essentially making twice the money. Yea it's only a buck a song unlike the BS awards they're going for in court (over a thousand bucks per stolen song) but that's still real money on a global scale, if you can convince otherwise law-abiding geeks and kids to buy instead of stealing/sharing.

Nilsen · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2007, 07:53:58 AM »

I dl (or steal if you will) music on the internet all the time. If the music is good then i buy their CD, and if its not i delete the track so it doesnt take up space and clutter my music library.

No different from finding new music on the radio really except you can find many gems that will never get enough airtime for me to catch.

There are afew bands out there that can thank illegal dl for getting my money, and then you have those who lose my money becuase I might have otherwise bought their cd but have found the songs on it to be crap so i ended up not buying it.

What im saying is that it goes both ways. If the bands deliver they get my $, and if they dont then they wont.

sluggish · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2007, 07:56:53 AM »

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Originally posted by eagl
buying a CD and ripping it to mp3 myself, or buying a non-DRM mp3... sounds about the same to me. I know I'd definately buy more music if it came in non-DRM mp3 format. That's more money directly into their pockets.

I don't steal music so with me they gain only the sale price, but for those stealing the music they're essentially making twice the money. Yea it's only a buck a song unlike the BS awards they're going for in court (over a thousand bucks per stolen song) but that's still real money on a global scale, if you can convince otherwise law-abiding geeks and kids to buy instead of stealing/sharing.

The only problem eagl is that the RIAA is trying to expand the definition of piracy to include ripping a CD to your hard drive. They think that when you buy music you are buying one physical copy that cannot be reproduced for any reason. They will strangle themselves.

I think the future will have two kinds of people: People that brainlessly feed off from whatever the big four and media can shovel at them and those who seek out independent music. You'd be surprised how much excellent stuff is out there that you will never hear on any radio.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:15:36 AM »

There is the third person. The one who has gotten so sick and tired of companies trying thier best to prevent people from using the music they prefer in a manner they prefer, that they just completely abandon all music.

I fit there. I finally got so sick of all of it, that I have taken to converting my rather large library of 30+ year old vinyls to CD.

EMI is going to fail in this endeavor. Thier competition will make sure of that. Piracy will not slow down at all (as a matter of fact, it will probably increase).

eagl · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2007, 10:39:31 AM »

I disagree Skuzzmeister... whoever gets the most revenue will win, no matter what the extraneous losses are.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2007, 04:23:22 PM »

Eagl, you know how easy it is going to be for thier competition to kill this? Watch all EMI's catalog show up for free one day. Then ask, how did that happen? The ask why? You are a sharp guy, you'll see what I am talking about.

But I'll give ya hint. Who would benefit the most from proving piracy would kill the distribution method EMI is trying out?

Vulcan · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2007, 04:48:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
There is the third person. The one who has gotten so sick and tired of companies trying thier best to prevent people from using the music they prefer in a manner they prefer, that they just completely abandon all music.

I fit there. I finally got so sick of all of it, that I have taken to converting my rather large library of 30+ year old vinyls to CD.

EMI is going to fail in this endeavor. Thier competition will make sure of that. Piracy will not slow down at all (as a matter of fact, it will probably increase).

Guess what Skuzzy, thanks to RIAA lbbbying in NZ you fall into the category of a pirate.

Debonair · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2007, 05:19:06 PM »

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